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02-09-2015, 04:44 PM
RE: The Televangelism Warning Label
(02-09-2015 04:20 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(02-09-2015 11:10 AM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  Perhaps just the nutritional value would be a fair compromise.

Who are these 10 guys the Devil killed? I wanna know about them. How the hell do you piss off the Devil?

Might be a reference to Job's family, although there are a couple of disclaimers on that:

(1) That was done by "a satan" or "the satan" (i.e., "the adversary"), and in the book of Job, he was apparently on reasonably good terms with God. This is probably not "the devil" as Christianity usually pictures him.

(2) He didn't kill those people because they pissed him off. He was just trying to win a bet with God. And since God effectively told him "Go ahead and do your worst," he would seem to be equally culpable.

If we want to stretch things a bit, the devil indirectly killed everyone who has ever died, because he caused "The Fall" by tempting Eve, and thereby "brought death into the world".
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03-09-2015, 06:19 AM
RE: The Televangelism Warning Label
(31-08-2015 11:35 AM)Airportkid Wrote:  "WARNING: Use of religious ritual and withholding licensed medical attention from minors or other legal dependents is a felony punishable by fine and imprisonment."

Like the cigarettes warning, getting it established won't be accomplished overnight. There will be some resistance.

Add another:

"WARNING: Fiscal judgment can be severely impaired when engaging in rituals designed to appeal to emotion."
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04-09-2015, 07:51 AM
RE: The Televangelism Warning Label
(02-09-2015 04:20 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(02-09-2015 11:10 AM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  Perhaps just the nutritional value would be a fair compromise.

Who are these 10 guys the Devil killed? I wanna know about them. How the hell do you piss off the Devil?

What Grasshopper said. Job 1:13 is the exact passage where god tells satan that he can do whatever he wants to Job's life but he can't hurt him directly. He then changes the directive in Job 2 to that he may hurt him but not kill him. A pretty terrible story.

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04-09-2015, 08:47 AM
RE: The Televangelism Warning Label
(02-09-2015 04:44 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  ...

If we want to stretch things a bit, the devil indirectly killed everyone who has ever died, because he caused "The Fall" by tempting Eve, and thereby "brought death into the world".

I disagree. You cannot blame Satan for bringing death into the world. It was God who decided to place an unreasonable restriction upon Adam and Eve. It was God, not Satan who placed temptation in the path of naive newly-created humans by putting the tree in Eden in the first place, where they'd have to walk by it every day, like casinos in Las Vegas, where you have to walk all the way through the gambling hall to get from the front door to the guest elevators. Satan merely explained to Eve the unreasonableness of the restriction. It was God who created the tree, knowing full well in advance what would come of it, and who placed the unreasonable restriction, and then imposed the punishment. The responsibility is 100% on God's hands.

If there was a god, which there isn't. And if the Bible was a true story, which it isn't.

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04-09-2015, 11:01 AM
RE: The Televangelism Warning Label
(31-08-2015 12:19 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(31-08-2015 11:56 AM)Mr. Boston Wrote:  If warning labels related to mature or explicit content on music albums and songs doesn't violate the 1st amendment I'm not sure how warning labels on unsubstantiated bullshit claims designed to solicit money from people in exchange for celestial benefits would violate separation of church and state. It's not the belief part that's being labeled, it's the commerce part. You can encourage people to believe whatever you want them to... for free.

The government would be making a statement about the truthfulness of a religion.

And that does not violate the establishment clause. Drinking Beverage

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