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25-04-2016, 11:18 AM
The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
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Quote:When Texas Republicans assemble for their state convention next month, it’s possible they will debate whether Texas should secede from the United States.

There’s almost no chance Texas Republicans will actually vote in favor of seceding, mind you — not least because most of the party wants nothing to do with this — but the fact we’re even mentioning secession and the Texas GOP convention in the same sentence suggests that the once-fringe movement has become a priority for at least some conservative grass-roots Texans.

People keep saying "let them secede", but do we really want to let them oppress whoever they want to oppress? Obviously they have no chance, but I don't see how letting them secede would help anything. They would effectively become a Christian Saudi Arabia.

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25-04-2016, 11:20 AM
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
If not for the globe-destroying energy/environment policies they would almost certainly enact I'd say let them go.
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25-04-2016, 11:27 AM
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
(25-04-2016 11:18 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...f-serious/

Quote:When Texas Republicans assemble for their state convention next month, it’s possible they will debate whether Texas should secede from the United States.

There’s almost no chance Texas Republicans will actually vote in favor of seceding, mind you — not least because most of the party wants nothing to do with this — but the fact we’re even mentioning secession and the Texas GOP convention in the same sentence suggests that the once-fringe movement has become a priority for at least some conservative grass-roots Texans.

People keep saying "let them secede", but do we really want to let them oppress whoever they want to oppress? Obviously they have no chance, but I don't see how letting them secede would help anything. They would effectively become a Christian Saudi Arabia.

If they voted to secede, who would stop them? You think the neighboring states would help the U.S. government? More likely other states in the south would secede with them. Throw in a mostly armed populace in those states, it would be a futile attempt. 44% of the U.S. military comes from the southern states as well.

Think about it.

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25-04-2016, 11:27 AM
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
(25-04-2016 11:18 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...f-serious/

Quote:When Texas Republicans assemble for their state convention next month, it’s possible they will debate whether Texas should secede from the United States.

There’s almost no chance Texas Republicans will actually vote in favor of seceding, mind you — not least because most of the party wants nothing to do with this — but the fact we’re even mentioning secession and the Texas GOP convention in the same sentence suggests that the once-fringe movement has become a priority for at least some conservative grass-roots Texans.

People keep saying "let them secede", but do we really want to let them oppress whoever they want to oppress? Obviously they have no chance, but I don't see how letting them secede would help anything. They would effectively become a Christian Saudi Arabia.

Well, they couldn't become their own nation. They lack the population for that, also the business and money.

They'd have to rejoin Mexico. Then they too can sneak across the boarder. Drinking Beverage

/sarcasm.


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25-04-2016, 11:33 AM
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
(25-04-2016 11:27 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(25-04-2016 11:18 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...f-serious/


People keep saying "let them secede", but do we really want to let them oppress whoever they want to oppress? Obviously they have no chance, but I don't see how letting them secede would help anything. They would effectively become a Christian Saudi Arabia.

If they voted to secede, who would stop them? You think the neighboring states would help the U.S. government? More likely other states in the south would secede with them. Throw in a mostly armed populace in those states, it would be a futile attempt. 44% of the U.S. military comes from the southern states as well.

Think about it.

We had this discussion about 150 years ago and decided it was not ok to secede. Besides this is a fringe of a fringe they get noticed because it is a clickbait headline. Texas is actually moving from light red (it is not as conservative as people like to think) to Purple with the influx and registration of most hispanic voters. In 10 years Texas could actually flip Blue which would destroy the Republican Path to the White House.

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25-04-2016, 11:37 AM
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
Well that's one way to get Mexico to pay for a wall.

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25-04-2016, 11:38 AM (This post was last modified: 25-04-2016 11:57 AM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
(25-04-2016 11:27 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(25-04-2016 11:18 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...f-serious/


People keep saying "let them secede", but do we really want to let them oppress whoever they want to oppress? Obviously they have no chance, but I don't see how letting them secede would help anything. They would effectively become a Christian Saudi Arabia.

Well, they couldn't become their own nation. They lack the population for that, also the business and money.

They'd have to rejoin Mexico. Then they too can sneak across the boarder. Drinking Beverage

/sarcasm.

Was your entire post sarcasm, or just the last sentence? Because Texas GDP is 1.4 trillion, more than Mexico itself and almost as much as Canada. They have huge oil reserves, and have their own state militia. Businesses are moving there at a high rate. I should have never left Texas.

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25-04-2016, 11:46 AM (This post was last modified: 25-04-2016 11:53 AM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
(25-04-2016 11:33 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(25-04-2016 11:27 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  If they voted to secede, who would stop them? You think the neighboring states would help the U.S. government? More likely other states in the south would secede with them. Throw in a mostly armed populace in those states, it would be a futile attempt. 44% of the U.S. military comes from the southern states as well.

Think about it.

We had this discussion about 150 years ago and decided it was not ok to secede. Besides this is a fringe of a fringe they get noticed because it is a clickbait headline. Texas is actually moving from light red (it is not as conservative as people like to think) to Purple with the influx and registration of most hispanic voters. In 10 years Texas could actually flip Blue which would destroy the Republican Path to the White House.

While republicans in most states struggle to get 25% of the hispanic vote, Texas is different. Hispanics there are split almost 50/50 to both sides. It will take a LONG time for Texas to turn blue. George Bush garnered 40% of the hispanic vote nation wide, so it's not a foregone conclusion. Being "hispanic" doesn't guarantee a democrat vote. Many are die hard christian, with family values and the GOP appeals to them.

The GOP is changing as well. The aftermath of Trump will most likely wake up the GOP. If they don't want to go extinct, they'll need to realize that some social issues are never going to go away. If they could stop the abortion nonsense, give up the gay rights fight and tweak a few small things, they could really take over. They might alienate 15% of their base but the permanent addition of moderates and independents would guarantee their success forever.

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25-04-2016, 11:51 AM
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
If they are willing to take Mississippi and Louisiana with them, I say let them go. With our blessing. But, the day they go they are 100% on there own. No help or money from the country they left. Not one single cent. I'll sign up for that deal all day long.

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25-04-2016, 12:33 PM
RE: The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real
(25-04-2016 11:27 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(25-04-2016 11:18 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...f-serious/


People keep saying "let them secede", but do we really want to let them oppress whoever they want to oppress? Obviously they have no chance, but I don't see how letting them secede would help anything. They would effectively become a Christian Saudi Arabia.

Well, they couldn't become their own nation. They lack the population for that, also the business and money.

They'd have to rejoin Mexico. Then they too can sneak across the boarder. Drinking Beverage

/sarcasm.

Should we start building the wall in Oklahoma now???


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