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02-07-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: The Trump Impeachment Thread
(02-07-2017 04:47 AM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 02:35 AM)Dworkin Wrote:  We watched Michael Moore's film on capitalism last night. My conclusion after watching, is that Trump will not be impeached and will serve the second term.

Why? It is because Moore described Trump's America, all the way back through the decades.

Moore predicted Trump would win the election, based on his understanding of states like Michigan. Then after the election, Moore also predicted Trump would not serve out his full first term, so we shall see.

Agreed.

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02-07-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: The Trump Impeachment Thread
Is it just me? I read this one to my grandchild recently. It made me think of Trump.

Yertle the Turtle
-----------------

by dr. seuss

On the far-away island of Sala-ma-Sond,
Yertle the Turtle was king of the pond.
A nice little pond. It was clean. It was neat.
The water was warm. There was plenty to eat.
The turtles had everything turtles might need.
And they were all happy. Quite happy indeed.

They were... untill Yertle, the king of them all,
Decided the kingdom he ruled was too small.
"I'm ruler", said Yertle, "of all that I see.
But I don't see enough. That's the trouble with me.
With this stone for a throne, I look down on my pond
But I cannot look down on the places beyond.
This throne that I sit on is too, too low down.
It ought to be higher!" he said with a frown.
"If I could sit high, how much greater I'd be!
What a king! I'd be ruler of all that I see!"

So Yertle, the Turtle King, lifted his hand
And Yertle, the Turtle King, gave a command.
He ordered nine turtles to swim to his stone
And, using these turtles, he built a new throne.
He made each turtle stand on another one's back
And he piled them all up in a nine-turtle stack.
And then Yertle climbed up. He sat down on the pile.
What a wonderful view! He could see 'most a mile!

"All mine!" Yertle cried. "Oh, the things I now rule!
I'm the king of a cow! And I'm the king of a mule!
I'm the king of a house! And, what's more, beyond that
I'm the king of a blueberry bush and a cat!
I'm Yertle the Turtle! Oh, marvelous me!
For I am the ruler of all that I see!"

And all through the morning, he sat up there high
Saying over and over, "A great king am I!"
Until 'long about noon. Then he heard a faint sigh.
"What's that?" snapped the king
And he looked down the stack.
And he saw, at the bottom, a turtle named Mack.
Just a part of his throne. And this plain little turtle
Looked up and he said, "Beg your pardon, King Yertle.
I've pains in my back and my shoulders and knees.
How long must we stand here, Your Majesty, please?"

"SILENCE!" the King of the Turtles barked back.
"I'm king, and you're only a turtle named Mack."

"You stay in your place while I sit here and rule.
I'm the king of a cow! And I'm the king of a mule!
I'm the king of a house! And a bush! And a cat!
But that isn't all. I'll do better than that!
My throne shall be higher!" his royal voice thundered,
"So pile up more turtles! I want 'bout two hundred!"

"Turtles! More turtles!" he bellowed and brayed.
And the turtles 'way down in the pond were afraid.
They trembled. They shook. But they came. They obeyed.
From all over the pond, they came swimming by dozens.
Whole families of turtles, with uncles and cousins.
And all of them stepped on the head of poor Mack.
One after another, they climbed up the stack.

Then Yertle the Turtle was perched up so high,
He could see fourty miles from his throne in the sky!
"Hooray!" shouted Yertle. "I'm the king of the trees!
I'm king of the birds! And I'm king of the bees!
I'm king of the butterflies! King of the air!
Ah, me! What a throne! What a wonderful chair!
I'm Yertle the Turtle! Oh, marvelous me!
For I am the ruler of all that I see!"

Then again, from below, in the great heavy stack,
Came a groan from that plain little turtle named Mack.
"Your Majesty, please... I don't like to complain,
But down here below, we are feeling great pain.
I know, up on top you are seeing great sights,
But down here at the bottom we, too, should have rights.

We turtles can't stand it. Our shells will all crack!
Besides, we need food. We are starving!" groaned Mack.

"You hush up your mouth!" howled the mighty King Yertle.
"You've no right to talk to the world's highest turtle.
I rule from the clouds! Over land! Over sea!
There's nothing, no, NOTHING, that's higher than me!"

But, while he was shouting, he saw with surprise
That the moon of the evening was starting to rise
Up over his head in the darkening skies.
"What's THAT?" snorted Yertle. "Say, what IS that thing
That dares to be higher than Yertle the King?
I shall not allow it! I'll go higher still!
I'll build my throne higher! I can and I will!
I'll call some more turtles. I'll stack 'em to heaven!
I need 'bout five thousand, six hundred and seven!"

But, as Yertle, the Turtle King, lifted his hand
And started to order and give the command,
That plain little turtle below in the stack,
That plain little turtle whose name was just Mack,
Decided he'd taken enough. And he had.
And that plain little lad got a bit mad.
And that plain little Mack did a plain little thing.
He burped!
And his burp shook the throne of the king!

And Yertle the Turtle, the king of the trees,
The king of the air and the birds and the bees,
The king of a house and a cow and a mule...
Well, that was the end of the Turtle King's rule!
For Yertle, the King of all Sala-ma-Sond,
Fell off his high throne and fell Plunk! in the pond!

And to say the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

Where are we going and why am I in this hand basket?
"Life is not all lovely thorns and singing vultures, you know." ~ Morticia Addams
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02-07-2017, 05:26 PM
RE: The Trump Impeachment Thread
Congress is beginning to take power away from the Trump and basically ignore much of what comes out of the Oval Office.

The Russia Sanctions Bill is just one such device, in which the Senate can block Trump from easing or cancelling sanctions against Russia.

The Senate also passed a bill - symbolic but nevertheless powerful - re-affirming Article 5 of the NATO charter which Trump had already questioned.

And both Congress and the Senate have already stated that they're basically going to ignore much of Trump's budget. For example, Trump's slashing of the State Department budget by 32% is being ignored by members of both parties. As well, Congress - happily - has also ignored Trump's cutting of the budget for basic science research and has instead increased funding, in some cases dramatically, and increased funding for the NIH in direct contravention of Trump's cut.
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02-07-2017, 05:44 PM
RE: The Trump Impeachment Thread
(02-07-2017 05:26 PM)Heath_Tierney Wrote:  Congress is beginning to take power away from the Trump and basically ignore much of what comes out of the Oval Office.

The Russia Sanctions Bill is just one such device, in which the Senate can block Trump from easing or cancelling sanctions against Russia.

The Senate also passed a bill - symbolic but nevertheless powerful - re-affirming Article 5 of the NATO charter which Trump had already questioned.

And both Congress and the Senate have already stated that they're basically going to ignore much of Trump's budget. For example, Trump's slashing of the State Department budget by 32% is being ignored by members of both parties. As well, Congress - happily - has also ignored Trump's cutting of the budget for basic science research and has instead increased funding, in some cases dramatically, and increased funding for the NIH in direct contravention of Trump's cut.

At this point I thinking that That Congress knows far more than we do in the investigation. And this is why they are taking powers away.
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09-07-2017, 05:30 PM
RE: The Trump Impeachment Thread
Drip, drip, drip....

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-tr...aya-2017-7


Quote:Donald Trump Jr. provided two significantly different statements over the weekend to address a Trump Tower meeting he took with a Russian lawyer last June.
His most recent statement acknowledged that he was promised information on soon-to-be Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. His original statement left out this key point.

Quote:The initial story highlighted the meeting's existence, to which Trump Jr. responded that it "was a short introductory meeting" that focused on "a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government."

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09-07-2017, 07:52 PM
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Seriously, this man has lost his grip on reality.
http://www.npr.org/2017/07/07/535975254/...lk-of-g-20

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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09-07-2017, 09:05 PM
RE: The Trump Impeachment Thread
(09-07-2017 07:52 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Seriously, this man has lost his grip on reality.
http://www.npr.org/2017/07/07/535975254/...lk-of-g-20

This was an amazing takedown of trump by an Australian reporter. He really nailed it.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017...0#comments

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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09-07-2017, 09:12 PM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2017 09:18 PM by outtathereligioncloset.)
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Just when I thought I couldn't love Australia from afar any more than I already did!

This one is about 8 months old so there is a high likelihood I suppose, that it's already been posted here. But it may be one of my favorite articles ever written about Trump:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...presidency

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09-07-2017, 09:55 PM
RE: The Trump Impeachment Thread
(09-07-2017 09:12 PM)outtathereligioncloset Wrote:  Just when I thought I couldn't love Australia from afar any more than I already did!

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10-07-2017, 09:09 AM
RE: The Trump Impeachment Thread
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dona...9bdb0deb58

Read Donald Trump Jr.’s full statements below.

Quote:The statement he released on Saturday:
It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up.
I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.

Quote:The statement he released on Sunday:
I was asked to have a meeting by an acquaintance I knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant with an individual who I was told might have information helpful to the campaign. I was not told her name prior to the meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to attend, but told them nothing of the substance. We had a meeting in June 2016. After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information. She then changed subjects and began discussing the adoption of Russian children and mentioned the Magnitsky Act. It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting. I interrupted and advised her that my father was not an elected official, but rather a private citizen, and that her comments and concerns were better addressed if and when he held public office. The meeting lasted approximately 20 to 30 minutes. As it ended, my acquaintance apologized for taking up our time. That was the end of it and there was no further contact or follow-up of any kind. My father knew nothing of the meeting or these events.

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