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03-05-2014, 06:38 PM
The War on Masturbation
Not long ago, I came across a Richard Dawkins video that I hadn't seen before. Dawkins was in the States, trying to understand why Christianity (in particular) was so obsessed with sexual sin.

Then I stumbled across this gem from BYU Idaho (try watching it without WTF-ing about seventeen times):

Mormon War on Masturbation

A particularly sharp YouTube commenter referred to this video as "Saving Ryan's Privates".

In the Dawkins video, he comes across a psychologist who co-authored a study that explained two things:

1. Religious people actually watch more porn and masturbate more (Utah leading the pack in the sheer volume of porn consumed).

2. Religious people feel tremendous amounts of guilt and shame over their masturbation or porn watching.

So, when I watch the video above, I want to laugh. It's absolutely ridiculous. But, shaming people into feel like garbage for behaving in a natural way? I can't stand for that.

It was enough to make me go back and reread Hitch's passage on the LDS church in "god is not great" again.

What do you guys think?

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03-05-2014, 06:44 PM
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It really upsets me. Sexuality is such a natural thing, and a big part of who we are. To tie guilt and shame to that is so damaging No

You might enjoy reading (or not since it's depressing) America's War on Sex. Can't remember the author at the moment. It goes into our sex education here in America as well. Our schools are teaching flat out lies about the effectiveness of birth control and condoms to scare and shame teens against even trying to explore their sexuality in a safe way. Makes me really angry Angry

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03-05-2014, 06:57 PM
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As someone who was raised in an active fundamentalist christian environment, this actually doesn't seem all that strange to me. You have to understand that the power of religion and faith is that you CAN'T succeed without them. You NEED the church. The church is the ONLY WAY. God and the church are your ONLY HOPE.

To get that kind of power, you need something people can't overcome. Don't steal cars. Done. No problem. Don't need the church, I can manage that on my own.

Don't have sex before marriage. Don't commit adultery. Don't masturbate. Don't get aroused by a smoking hot bikini clad college coed. In the church I was brought up in, DON'T EVEN LIKE THE IDEA OF IT! Because if you do, you have sinned... you are bad. And you can't do it. You can't overcome it. Which makes you NEED the church. You need the church to intercede on your behalf. You need the church for salvation. Because there is no other way. Failure and the need for forgiveness is inevitable.

And it has to be that way for religion to have the power it does.
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03-05-2014, 06:58 PM
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I watched right up until something looked like it was taking place on a battlefield! Almost lost my shit Angry

I do remember reading that more sex, and hate, crimes happen in places heavy in religious people. Go figure Dodgy

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03-05-2014, 06:59 PM
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(03-05-2014 06:57 PM)djhall Wrote:  As someone who was raised in an active fundamentalist christian environment....


I'm not the only one then!!!!! BowingHug

A person very dear to me was badly hurt through a misunderstanding and miscommunication. For this, I am sorry, and he knows it. That said, any blaming me for malicious intent is for the birds. I will not wear some scarlet letter, I will not be anybody's whipping girl, and I will not lurk in silence.
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03-05-2014, 07:05 PM
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(03-05-2014 06:59 PM)Charis Wrote:  I'm not the only one then!!!!! BowingHug
Blush Thanks for the hug. Is that B.O. and tuna I smell? Heart
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03-05-2014, 07:06 PM
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03-05-2014, 07:07 PM
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(03-05-2014 07:05 PM)djhall Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 06:59 PM)Charis Wrote:  I'm not the only one then!!!!! BowingHug
Blush Thanks for the hug. Is that B.O. and tuna I smell? Heart

Whoops, sorry. I put that scent on just for Jeremy and forgot to shower after. Blush

By the way... Kim.... THAT. PIC. IS. AWESOME!!!!!

A person very dear to me was badly hurt through a misunderstanding and miscommunication. For this, I am sorry, and he knows it. That said, any blaming me for malicious intent is for the birds. I will not wear some scarlet letter, I will not be anybody's whipping girl, and I will not lurk in silence.
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03-05-2014, 08:26 PM
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I think I feel a protest wank coming on...

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03-05-2014, 10:17 PM
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(03-05-2014 08:26 PM)Sam Wrote:  I think I feel a protest wank coming on...

Not a bad idea.... I do have a can of tuna, some old dirty laundry, and a bottle of lube. Consider

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