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21-11-2012, 02:56 AM
The arms race; are we already doomed?
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If there were no countries and mankind was living together as just "Earthians," with no wars over land or the "one country against another country" mentality, there would be less of an interest in creating the most efficient weapons possible. There would be a curiosity, but it wouldn't be as frantic and heavily funded as it is now. But right now, here's the situation. Humans are racing to make the deadliest weapons possible. They don't necessarily want to do this, but they have this fear that if they don't do it, their enemy will do it first. That's how we went from steel and sword to gunpowder and cannon to rifle and grenades to weaponized aircraft and armored vehicle to nuclear warhead. We're frantically trying to come up with the next, most terrifying weapon possible before our enemy does.

And humanity is slow to react to our collective effort to destroy each other. It took 40 years for us to ban the use of napalm (but only against civilians, we don't mind if it burns soldiers), and some countries (looking at you America) continue to ignore that law. After we witnessed the horror of the nuclear explosion, we collectively agreed to only keep "a few" nukes and only a few countries are allowed to have them. The number of operational nukes in America's possession was just released for the first time under Obama and we have roughly 5,000 nukes with thousands more "waiting to be disassembled." It only takes a couple nukes to destroy the human population. So we clearly aren't taking that too seriously either. Meanwhile, we're still looking for the next big thing. Trying to invent the weapon that will outperform the nuke "just in case our enemies use their nukes."

Weed's making me sleepy.

Here's the thought process:

1. As long as there exist borders and separate countries, there will exist enemies.
2. As long as there exist enemies, there will exist a frantic effort to outmatch the enemies in war capabilities.
3. As long as this arms race continues, we as a species are on a road to extinction. It's just a matter of time before someone creates a global killer.
4. The only way to save mankind is to come together as one species.
5. That's very unlikely to happen.
6. Therefore, we are doomed to wipe ourselves out.

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21-11-2012, 03:00 AM
RE: The arms race; are we already doomed?
but having the best weapon doesn't mean you use it

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21-11-2012, 03:04 AM
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21-11-2012, 03:53 AM
RE: The arms race; are we already doomed?
I've never understood why we devote so much time and energy to making things specifically to kill people in large numbers as quickly as possible. If it hurts that's a bonus. How long does it take to make a human? How much effort to gain an education, to understand the complexities of life. And we want machine guns that can fire hundreds of rounds per minute Sad
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21-11-2012, 07:39 AM
RE: The arms race; are we already doomed?
(21-11-2012 03:53 AM)morondog Wrote:  I've never understood why we devote so much time and energy to making things specifically to kill people in large numbers as quickly as possible. If it hurts that's a bonus. How long does it take to make a human? How much effort to gain an education, to understand the complexities of life. And we want machine guns that can fire hundreds of rounds per minute Sad


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21-11-2012, 07:45 AM
RE: The arms race; are we already doomed?
I would agree that the best way to ensure the survival of our species is to have a world government.

It is not just to reduce friction, but to improve cooperation to ward off global threats (asteroid strike, environmental disaster, alien invasion, zombie apocalypse).

Maybe we can slowly make the U.N. stronger and it will morph into something effective.

I am not hopeful, but it could happen.

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21-11-2012, 07:48 AM
RE: The arms race; are we already doomed?
(21-11-2012 07:45 AM)Chas Wrote:  I would agree that the best way to ensure the survival of our species is to have a world government.

It is not just to reduce friction, but to improve cooperation to ward off global threats (asteroid strike, environmental disaster, alien invasion, zombie apocalypse).

Maybe we can slowly make the U.N. stronger and it will morph into something effective.

I am not hopeful, but it could happen.
It will never happen, as long as there're 5 permanent members in the security council there won't be any substantial changes in the UN structure, therefore it can't aspire to be a world government.

btw, a world government would be a representation nightmare! democracy would be impossible Sad

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21-11-2012, 08:14 AM
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(21-11-2012 07:48 AM)nach_in Wrote:  
(21-11-2012 07:45 AM)Chas Wrote:  I would agree that the best way to ensure the survival of our species is to have a world government.

It is not just to reduce friction, but to improve cooperation to ward off global threats (asteroid strike, environmental disaster, alien invasion, zombie apocalypse).

Maybe we can slowly make the U.N. stronger and it will morph into something effective.

I am not hopeful, but it could happen.
It will never happen, as long as there're 5 permanent members in the security council there won't be any substantial changes in the UN structure, therefore it can't aspire to be a world government.

btw, a world government would be a representation nightmare! democracy would be impossible Sad
Nonsense. We would all just be big states. The UN was on the right track for a long while, but then we just let it fizzle out due to nationalism.

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21-11-2012, 11:38 AM
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(21-11-2012 07:45 AM)Chas Wrote:  I would agree that the best way to ensure the survival of our species is to have a world government.

It is not just to reduce friction, but to improve cooperation to ward off global threats (asteroid strike, environmental disaster, alien invasion, zombie apocalypse).

Maybe we can slowly make the U.N. stronger and it will morph into something effective.

I am not hopeful, but it could happen.
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21-11-2012, 11:50 AM
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(21-11-2012 11:38 AM)Misanthropik Wrote:  
(21-11-2012 07:45 AM)Chas Wrote:  I would agree that the best way to ensure the survival of our species is to have a world government.

It is not just to reduce friction, but to improve cooperation to ward off global threats (asteroid strike, environmental disaster, alien invasion, zombie apocalypse).

Maybe we can slowly make the U.N. stronger and it will morph into something effective.

I am not hopeful, but it could happen.
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