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16-08-2016, 08:45 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 05:21 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(15-08-2016 10:49 PM)theBorg Wrote:  But the irrefutable motive (to run from hell) provides THE FACT, that the promised pain in hell is infinitely strong and infinitely long.

You have a very strange definition of fact.
The Christians do promise the atheists the hell. Is it correct? Yes, they do promise. It is then the fact: the fact, what they do promise. The fact of action: they do PROMISE.
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16-08-2016, 08:56 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 07:39 AM)Aliza Wrote:  man-god... We’ve got a world to put back in order
Dear Aliza,
the member of nation,
Which meant to be true:
To shine like the fire,
To burn like the hell:
To be on the God's side,
To help people pray.

The man-god is the Antichrist, but the Godman am the Jesus Christ. Please, do not be confused with Christian notions.

The world is in disorder, the world contains the evil. Why then the Judaism is not trying to drag from the hell as many souls as possible? Because of rebellion.
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16-08-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 08:56 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(16-08-2016 07:39 AM)Aliza Wrote:  man-god... We’ve got a world to put back in order
Dear Aliza,
the member of nation,
Which meant to be true:
To shine like the fire,
To burn like the hell:
To be on the God's side,
To help people pray.

The man-god is the Antichrist, but the Godman am the Jesus Christ. Please, do not be confused with Christian notions.

The world is in disorder, the world contains the evil. Why then the Judaism is not trying to drag from the hell as many souls as possible? Because of rebellion.

....Aaaand the Poe returns.

Jews don't believe in hell. I don't know where the Christians got that from, but it didn't come from us.
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16-08-2016, 09:25 PM (This post was last modified: 16-08-2016 09:30 PM by Astreja.)
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 08:25 PM)theBorg Wrote:  Christians are winning more souls for True God, than the Non-christian Jews.

No. Christians are simply deceiving more people. That is nothing to be proud of.

(16-08-2016 08:56 PM)theBorg Wrote:  Why then the Judaism is not trying to drag from the hell as many souls as possible?

Because souls are imaginary, and so is hell. Therefore there is no need to "drag" anything anywhere.

(16-08-2016 08:31 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The omnipresence is the presence in every place. Accept it as just plain scientific fact, no need to imagine this.

It isn't a "scientific fact" until it's been demonstrated in a proper experiment. Something that is omnipresent should also be detectable. I know of no way to test for your god; therefore, omnipresence is an unproven concept.
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16-08-2016, 09:31 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 08:25 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(16-08-2016 12:13 PM)SYZ Wrote:  Atheistic companies print more street directories than any religious organisation, therefore the position of atheists must be true.
I have there not the attempt to prove, but to compare. Conclusion from this comparing: Christians are winning more souls for True God, than the Non-christian Jews.

Just a quick point: Specifying that Jews are non-Christian is kind of like specifying that Christians are not Muslims or Hindus.

It'd be like me calling you a non-Muslim Christian. It's accurate, but it's kind of silly and overly wordy.
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16-08-2016, 10:31 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 09:31 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Specifying that Jews are non-Christian is kind...
The Jews, who have gained the True Christianity, do remain the children of Abraham. Moreover, the repented pagans do believe, what they are spiritual children of Abraham.
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16-08-2016, 10:34 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 08:56 PM)theBorg Wrote:  Moreover, the repented pagans do believe, what they are spiritual children of Abraham.

I'd rather not be the spiritual "child" of someone who attempted to kill his own son.
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16-08-2016, 10:37 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 09:25 PM)Astreja Wrote:  
(16-08-2016 08:25 PM)theBorg Wrote:  Christians are winning more souls for True God, than the Non-christian Jews.

No. Christians are simply deceiving more people. That is nothing to be proud of... Something that is omnipresent should also be detectable.
1) You are not an expert in Christianity, because you have following false knowledge: "all gods are false". 2) Not, if it is spiritual: the thermometer would not measure the temperature of a spirit. The spirits are mastering over physical reality and instruments.
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16-08-2016, 10:39 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 10:34 PM)Astreja Wrote:  ... who attempted to kill his own son.
True God am not subject to the Law, the Law comes from God for the people. Because the True God am the Most High, the True God am the Souverain (the forgotten historic French word) King. Souverainity of our Lord is hard to understand, because today the children have more Political Power, than their unannounced slaves - the parents.
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16-08-2016, 10:43 PM
RE: The blind trust can lead to faith
(16-08-2016 10:31 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(16-08-2016 09:31 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Specifying that Jews are non-Christian is kind...
The Jews, who have gained the True Christianity, do remain the children of Abraham. Moreover, the repented pagans do believe, what they are spiritual children of Abraham.

I can't find the resource on Google to link you, but going by memory, I think that worldwide, only like 2% of the Jewish population believes in Jesus. If you're going to specify, you should be doing it the other way around. Use the title "Jew" for Jews who are mainstream and "Christian Jews" for those rare exceptions who break with the norm.
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