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03-11-2014, 05:59 AM
RE: The end times.
Doesn't the bible say that no one knows the day or the hour? What if everyone who guesses the end times are right, but then god has to keep changing it because he's gotta stick to his word. He can't lie, you guys. He's god. He's just like, "Me damn it! I shouldn't have put all those clues in the bible!"

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03-11-2014, 11:35 AM
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(02-11-2014 04:43 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  Geological activity is increasing, Ebola is winning, North Korea is preparing to invade south korea, ISIS is invading the world

Weeping

Better pray to your god, Sye Ten.

Also, why is this in the Atheism forum? I see two science and two political threads, there.
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03-11-2014, 11:44 AM
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Big deal. Time will eventually end for everything and everyone at some point. What's the problem?
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03-11-2014, 12:18 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but they've been making the same predictions since the time of Jesus. Guess what, Jesus, Paul, Harold Camping, Hal Lindsey and every one of the apocalyptic cultists have been wrong.

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03-11-2014, 12:20 PM
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(02-11-2014 04:43 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  Geological activity is increasing, Ebola is winning, North Korea is preparing to invade south korea, ISIS is invading the world

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Nice try..

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03-11-2014, 12:23 PM
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(03-11-2014 05:59 AM)LadyWallFlower Wrote:  Doesn't the bible say that no one knows the day or the hour? What if everyone who guesses the end times are right, but then god has to keep changing it because he's gotta stick to his word. He can't lie, you guys. He's god. He's just like, "Me damn it! I shouldn't have put all those clues in the bible!"

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The Bible claims that Jesus made the following comment:

Matthew 16:28

“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Jesus also advised against going to court over someone who steals something and also told people not to store up stocks or reserves for the future. Clearly, he thought the end was very near.

Likewise, Paul advised followers not to marry and that the end time was near. In this scripture he obviously believes that some of the people he is talking to will still be alive at the second coming.

I Thessalonians 4: 16-18

“For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.”

The obvious fact is that the second coming was not forthcoming at that time, or even close to being near. The 2000-year delay is a strong piece of evidence that Christianity is a failed religion.

The following quote from Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University- Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument. Remember that Jesus was a Jew who had no intention to deviate from the Hebrew scriptures:

“Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do: He did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6–7; 11:7–12:16, etc.). Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises—for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing—Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome. Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews. (1 Cor.1:23)”

Jesus’ immediate followers, mostly his 12 disciples, probably did not immediately identify this failure, because after Jesus’ body was likely stolen and concealed, a rumor spread that Jesus had been resurrected from the dead. A sense of optimism overcame their grief about his execution and renewed some hope that he was a true messiah. If they had known then that there was to be no return in the near or long-term future, they likely would have abandoned any further activity. Despite this resurgence in their faith, they never agreed with Paul’s concept of Jesus as being divine. Anything written in the Bible to suggest that they did is probably a result of later editing by some of Paul’s followers. Such a belief would have been an exceptional departure from the Jewish faith.

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03-11-2014, 12:23 PM
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In my 50+ years the world has always been "ending". Please be original in the reasoning at least. Plagues, wars and pestilence are so 1st century CE. Drinking Beverage

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03-11-2014, 12:24 PM
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If anyone seriously believes the end times are upon us, sell me your house and car for $1.00

I'll let you rent them until the world is destroyed plus an extra $50 for rapture insurance

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03-11-2014, 12:27 PM
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(02-11-2014 10:31 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  
(02-11-2014 09:42 PM)Logisch Wrote:  Ok, Harold Camping.

ooooohhhhh.. BURN!

So lets see here. 4-6 months...hmm..April 2015?

Let's make a bet Diddo! I bet you $450.00 that your wrong. So wrong in fact that Ebola will no longer even be mentioned on mainstream news by April 2015.

Wanna take me up on that bet?

No, That would be pointless. I'd gain nothing from winning.

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03-11-2014, 04:24 PM
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Sausages, bacon, spaghetti hoops, and chips.

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