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24-01-2015, 10:39 AM (This post was last modified: 24-01-2015 10:50 AM by DLJ.)
The ever widening gap between the rich and poor
the ever widening gap


A new study by Oxfam found that the richest 1% of the world's population will own 50% of the planet’s wealth by the year 2016!

It shows the ever widening gap between the rich and the poor in capitalist countries. This contradiction is prevented from exploding through the following means:

1) an abundant technical capacity that is spent in the production and distribution of waste, planned obsolescence, environmental destruction, military products, space junk, cheap gadgets, low-cost technology, and affordable luxury goods that are spread to the broad strata of the Earth’s population, thereby increasing the overall standard of living but at the same time concealing the radical inequality and anarchy at the heart of the capitalist system;

2) the concentration and expansion of the police and military state to protect and preserve the rich as well as an anarchic obsolete capitalist system is accomplished through the monopolization and mobilization of economic, political, and technological power, which is combined with a high degree of governmental intervention in the economy and in the private spheres of human life;

3) the passivity and indifference of the masses is further achieved through the scientific manipulation of private and group behavior, both at work and at leisure, including consciousness and the unconscious, for political and economic purposes by a massive propaganda machine that works day and night in support of the capitalist system (i.e., Internet, TV, news media, mass advertising for the latest and fastest gadgets and technology, satellite radio, Hollywood movies, constant political lies and manipulation, the spread of the so-called "terror" threat, atheist diversion from the class struggle, etc, etc,).
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24-01-2015, 01:06 PM (This post was last modified: 24-01-2015 01:34 PM by goodwithoutgod.)
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(24-01-2015 10:39 AM)stmichael Wrote:  the ever widening gap


A new study by Oxfam found that the richest 1% of the world's population will own 50% of the planet’s wealth by the year 2016!

It shows the ever widening gap between the rich and the poor in capitalist countries. This contradiction is prevented from exploding through the following means:

1) an abundant technical capacity that is spent in the production and distribution of waste, planned obsolescence, environmental destruction, military products, space junk, cheap gadgets, low-cost technology, and affordable luxury goods that are spread to the broad strata of the Earth’s population, thereby increasing the overall standard of living but at the same time concealing the radical inequality and anarchy at the heart of the capitalist system;

2) the concentration and expansion of the police and military state to protect and preserve the rich as well as an anarchic obsolete capitalist system is accomplished through the monopolization and mobilization of economic, political, and technological power, which is combined with a high degree of governmental intervention in the economy and in the private spheres of human life;

3) the passivity and indifference of the masses is further achieved through the scientific manipulation of private and group behavior, both at work and at leisure, including consciousness and the unconscious, for political and economic purposes by a massive propaganda machine that works day and night in support of the capitalist system (i.e., Internet, TV, news media, mass advertising for the latest and fastest gadgets and technology, satellite radio, Hollywood movies, constant political lies and manipulation, the spread of the so-called "terror" threat, atheist diversion from the class struggle, etc, etc,).


EDIT: is this YOUR posit, or are you just posting the article for discussion....if so, what is your opinion on this point of view?


yes horrible system we have in america....heck a poor minority can even grow up and become the president, I wonder how the class system prevalent in every other country compares upon close analysis? the haves and the have nots is always an interesting distinction...the difference in america is one can be a haves not, and regardless who your lineage, or family name, you can be successful if you only strive to do so...lets look at the most westernized version of the middle east for example, saudia arabia where the royals lanquish in posh mega mansions and have a fleet of personalized uber yachts, while their population eat dirt and scrabble to survive, yet fight each other to line up and wave at the parade of rolls royces and bentleys of the privileged.

I like your implication of "so called terror threat"...you are right, damnit you nailed us, we worked hard on that conspiracy, creating this whole "terror" theory so we could drive our economy into the ground and spend trillions on it so that our buddies in the military related industries that we have stock in can farm money into our accounts...muahahahahahahahahahahaha..you are fucking idiot.

The class struggle is something every country deals with, only in a lot of countries who you are, where you came from sets you up for life, regardless of your individual capabilities or potential. In america, yes, you can get caught up in socio-economic and social disorganizational challenges of the inner cities, and grind away your life getting nowhere if you don't endeavor to do otherwise....but the point is YOU CAN DO OTHERWISE, you can apply for educational assistance, you can go to school, you can get a good job, you can make a business, heck, you can sit in your bedroom of your mommy's house and make a multi-million dollar smart phone app at the age of 16 and be rich for life if you have the ability to do so, regardless of what your surname is....the point is you have the opportunity to be successul in america, and a lot of other first world countries, but that is not the case for the majority of the world now is it? We have our privileged, and mega rich who exploited our capitalistic society to its fullest, and why not? Make something people want, mass produce it, create desire, make a profit, live the american dream...nothing wrong with that, perhaps you lack the necessary skills and would rather sit back and bitch about the nasty capitalist system.

What exactly was your point in reference to atheists and class struggle? Perhaps you could enlighten us on what you are on about..or is NONE of this your opinion and you are merely providing what the article said and throwing it up in a thread for open discussion? Smile

If so, then all of my reply is aimed at the article and not you in particular. *beams*

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24-01-2015, 01:44 PM
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Capitalism a competition to see how many ones and zeros you can accrue in some computer database somewhere.
Your mistaken goodwithoutgod if you think the earth can sustain this rampant consumerism Capitalism has spawned. A system that requires growth to keep from collapse. There is no future in the race to see who can get the biggest and most numerous possessions.
I for example have a wife and one child. I have a house that I built myself that is less than twelve hundred square feet. My carbon footprint is less than half of your average American family. If you measure success in this world by the amount of resources you squander with you big fancy houses and cars I feel sorry for you.
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24-01-2015, 02:04 PM (This post was last modified: 24-01-2015 02:09 PM by goodwithoutgod.)
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(24-01-2015 01:44 PM)Jack_Ripper Wrote:  Capitalism a competition to see how many ones and zeros you can accrue in some computer database somewhere.
Your mistaken goodwithoutgod if you think the earth can sustain this rampant consumerism Capitalism has spawned. A system that requires growth to keep from collapse. There is no future in the race to see who can get the biggest and most numerous possessions.
I for example have a wife and one child. I have a house that I built myself that is less than twelve hundred square feet. My carbon footprint is less than half of your average American family. If you measure success in this world by the amount of resources you squander with you big fancy houses and cars I feel sorry for you.

You are correct that this world cannot continue at the rate it is. The human race is like a virus sucking it dry of resources. But that doesnt mean that communism or socialism is the wave of the future either. No matter the system, there are always have and have nots, and I am okay with that to certain degree. If you are a have, because you were born with a certain name, then you just are lucky. If you are a have because you worked your ass off in a free society, found a niche market, and capitilized on that, then you are smart and have earned your status. Why should that hard work and success be a negative thing? As we call it in america; 1%er. Is it his/her fault others didn't do the work neccessary to become independently wealthy? is it his/her fault others are not as bright? Entrepreneurial? What is the answer then? regression? should we bull doze the cities and build wagons and squeak out to the far stretches of alaska and build a micro home out of old tree limbs and catch fish so our carbon footprint diminishes?...perhaps. Is our never ending chase after better, faster, easier, instant gratification going to hit the proverbial wall eventually? Absolutely. Do you really think we will choose regression over progression? if so then you are living in an imaginary world my friend.

I passed a woman proudly driving her little toyota prius the other day, her personalized licence plate said, "ozn savr"...I couldnt stop laughing...yes dear, your carbon footprint because you drive a prius makes a difference, perhaps we should analyze the cradle to grave carbon footprint impact your prius has compared to my honda accord that gets 34 mpg n 87 octane gas....the inevitable hazmat related to the batteries, the high cost for replacement and manufacturing of replacement batteries....carbon footprint concern is a noble idea, truly, because if we dont change the way we live, we wont have a planet to live on...but at this stage, it is mostly for tshirts and bumper stickers...those who brag about their carbon foot print lack the vision to understand they are pissing in the wind if they think driving their prius, or living in a tiny home will make an impact globally. if every person on the planet did these changes NOW, this instant, there would be a measurable change....whatcha think the odds of that is? How much would that truly affect this planets global warming in the long term? Think we will gain another 50-100, 200 years of livability on this planet before it devolves into an unlivable sphere?

If you measure success in this world by the amount of resources you save with your tiny house and hybrid cars I feel sorry for you. Our tiny insignificant lives are but a blip in the time of the world, to live them obsessed about carbon footprints and what happens after we die is a sad way to live. I am in no way saying we shouldnt be concerned, and shouldnt make some conscious efforts to curtail our environmental damage, but we gotta live in the meantime. To blame capitalism on the woes of the earth in relation to carbon footprint is disingenuous, unless you think we should still be huddled around a fire banging rocks for dinner..

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24-01-2015, 02:07 PM
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Oh, here we go with the drive-by commie bullshit. Big Grin

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24-01-2015, 02:57 PM
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I don't huddle around a fire banging rocks and I didn't imply anyone else should. Capitalism is responsible for all of the environmental problems. Every last one of them. To claim otherwise is disingenuous.
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24-01-2015, 03:02 PM
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I'm gonna really enjoy it when all that accrued wealth becomes completely meaningless someday. It's all one big lie.
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24-01-2015, 03:04 PM
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Thread moved to politics where it belongs.

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24-01-2015, 03:06 PM
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(24-01-2015 03:04 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  Thread moved to politics where it belongs.

Viper's pit's where it belongs, drive-by instigating motherfucker. Big Grin

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24-01-2015, 03:08 PM
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(24-01-2015 02:07 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Oh, here we go with the drive-by commie bullshit. Big Grin

Not a commie, but I do miss the drive-bys!

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