"The failure of Atheism to account for existence"
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15-10-2014, 09:42 PM
RE: "The failure of Atheism to account for existence"
(14-10-2014 05:00 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  Atheism is not a religion and it is not a science. It is not a philosophy, nor is it an understanding. It is not a thought, It is not faith. It not a belief and it is not stance.

Atheism is nothing more than the disbelief in the supernatural.

Period.

That is it.

That is all it ever has been, is today, and always will be.

The End.

Do not confuse Atheism with an Atheist! That is quite different.

The job of discovering where everything came from and how it works, why and where its all going is the job of SCIENCE!

Science is not a anything that I mentioned above either. It is also not a disbelief. It is a "process" in which we use as a tool to discover the how,what,when,where,why,because, etc. Of how and OF everything in the universe.

Nothing more, nothing less.

The End.

That is factually incorrect.
Many atheists believe in ghosts and psychics.

Atheists don't believe one very specific thing:
The assertion that: Supernatural gods exist!
Both words, gods and supernatural, need to be there.

It is possible for an atheist to believe in a god.
It is possible for an atheist to believe in the supernatural.
It is not possible to be an atheist and believe both at the same time.

Some people would argue that 'god' implies supernaturality but if some druid or blue skinned alien points to a tree and says: that is my god! Great! their god exists but does it do anything supernatural?
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15-10-2014, 10:06 PM
RE: "The failure of Atheism to account for existence"
(15-10-2014 09:42 PM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  
(14-10-2014 05:00 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  Atheism is not a religion and it is not a science. It is not a philosophy, nor is it an understanding. It is not a thought, It is not faith. It not a belief and it is not stance.

Atheism is nothing more than the disbelief in the supernatural.

Period.

That is it.

That is all it ever has been, is today, and always will be.

The End.

Do not confuse Atheism with an Atheist! That is quite different.

The job of discovering where everything came from and how it works, why and where its all going is the job of SCIENCE!

Science is not a anything that I mentioned above either. It is also not a disbelief. It is a "process" in which we use as a tool to discover the how,what,when,where,why,because, etc. Of how and OF everything in the universe.

Nothing more, nothing less.

The End.

That is factually incorrect.
Many atheists believe in ghosts and psychics.

Atheists don't believe one very specific thing:
The assertion that: Supernatural gods exist!
Both words, gods and supernatural, need to be there.

It is possible for an atheist to believe in a god.
It is possible for an atheist to believe in the supernatural.
It is not possible to be an atheist and believe both at the same time.

Some people would argue that 'god' implies supernaturality but if some druid or blue skinned alien points to a tree and says: that is my god! Great! their god exists but does it do anything supernatural?

Do you just make shit up as you go?

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16-10-2014, 12:02 AM
RE: "The failure of Atheism to account for existence"
(15-10-2014 09:42 PM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  It is possible for an atheist to believe in a god.
There was just one rule...really just one...

Blink

No

I prefer fantasy, but I have to live in reality.
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16-10-2014, 02:05 PM
RE: "The failure of Atheism to account for existence"
Okay, lots of interesting stuff to digest here.

So if there are aliens who evolved us or intelligently designed panspermia, etc. they are also natural, not non-natural entities. If we then say Jesus, Allah, Buddha, etc. is a higher evolved being who does stuff that LOOKS supernatural to the uninitiated (cars and airplanes would have looked supernatural to the ancients) then what do we have?

Thanks, all.

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16-10-2014, 02:17 PM
RE: "The failure of Atheism to account for existence"
(16-10-2014 02:05 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  Okay, lots of interesting stuff to digest here.

So if there are aliens who evolved us or intelligently designed panspermia, etc. they are also natural, not non-natural entities. If we then say Jesus, Allah, Buddha, etc. is a higher evolved being who does stuff that LOOKS supernatural to the uninitiated (cars and airplanes would have looked supernatural to the ancients) then what do we have?

Thanks, all.

Another question, or really the same one.

Where did they come from?

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16-10-2014, 02:22 PM
RE: "The failure of Atheism to account for existence"
(16-10-2014 02:17 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(16-10-2014 02:05 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  Okay, lots of interesting stuff to digest here.

So if there are aliens who evolved us or intelligently designed panspermia, etc. they are also natural, not non-natural entities. If we then say Jesus, Allah, Buddha, etc. is a higher evolved being who does stuff that LOOKS supernatural to the uninitiated (cars and airplanes would have looked supernatural to the ancients) then what do we have?

Thanks, all.

Another question, or really the same one.

Where did they come from?


A galaxy far, far away?


But as if to knock me down, reality came around
And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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16-10-2014, 03:08 PM
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(16-10-2014 02:22 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(16-10-2014 02:17 PM)Chas Wrote:  Another question, or really the same one.

Where did they come from?


A galaxy far, far away?

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