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21-10-2016, 12:14 PM
The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
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Fine tuning, my ass... Drinking Beverage

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21-10-2016, 12:35 PM
RE: ignorant lying troll
(21-10-2016 11:06 AM)theBorg Wrote:  The Science is hardly objective enough. The incoming papers are checked by only two referees.

Which is two more than your religious texts are checked by.

(21-10-2016 11:06 AM)theBorg Wrote:  And they both can sin. The 1998-Science paper has revealed the two official sciences: Young Earth Creationism and the Darwinian Evolutionism.

Young Earth Creationism is NOT science.

YEC consists entirely of "god did it." That's all. Not one single shred of science.

By calling YEC a "science", you invalidate yourself from any serious discussion.

By calling YEC a "science", you reveal yourself to be shamefully ignorant or deliberately deceitful.

Either way you lose.

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21-10-2016, 12:47 PM
RE: The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
(21-10-2016 12:35 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  By calling YEC a "science", you invalidate yourself from any serious discussion.

By calling YEC a "science", you reveal yourself to be shamefully ignorant or deliberately deceitful.

Either way you lose.

He lost ages ago.

Too stupid to recognise how stupid he is.

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21-10-2016, 12:52 PM
RE: The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
(21-10-2016 12:47 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(21-10-2016 12:35 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  By calling YEC a "science", you invalidate yourself from any serious discussion.

By calling YEC a "science", you reveal yourself to be shamefully ignorant or deliberately deceitful.

Either way you lose.

He lost ages ago.

Too stupid to recognise how stupid he is.

Yeah, but does it hurt to be so stupid? Can anyone become so stupid without additional side effects?

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21-10-2016, 12:57 PM
RE: The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
(21-10-2016 12:52 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  Yeah, but does it hurt to be so stupid? Can anyone become so stupid without additional side effects?

Aside from affecting those around them, I really cannot say.

The three major idiots currently posting are Deltabravo, the borg and socialist view. I have not seen Pop's.

That Delta bravo could not recognise the significance of Stoicism in the late Republic is a sure sign of true ignorance. Especially amongst the Patrician class.

The worship of the Hellenic gods and the great altar seem to have passed him by.....

That they hold this ignorance, without fact checking, to be true, is simply sad.

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21-10-2016, 01:13 PM
RE: The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
(21-10-2016 12:35 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  ...............
Young Earth Creationism is NOT science.

YEC consists entirely of "god did it." That's all. Not one single shred of science.
..................

Dear friends, there are many variants of YEC. Some good scientists (like the one, who published the 1998-Science paper) are the amazing specialists in the natural laws. They do not deny the nature. Hereby they see, what there is super-natural reality also. Their study of nature is making clear, what the super-natural is necessary. For example, the General Relativity is the highly established fact, but has the issue of the infinities: infinite curvature, infinite temperature, infinite pressure.... SINGULARITIES in Black Holes, and in Seeming Big Bang. Singularity means, what there is the reality, which is not natural.

If all would be nature, then the word "nature" is meaningless: it does not distinguish one thing from another.
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21-10-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
(21-10-2016 01:13 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(21-10-2016 12:35 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  ...............
Young Earth Creationism is NOT science.

YEC consists entirely of "god did it." That's all. Not one single shred of science.
..................

Dear friends, there are many variants of YEC. Some good scientists (like the one, who published the 1998-Science paper) are the amazing specialists in the natural laws. They do not deny the nature. Hereby they see, what there is super-natural reality also. Their study of nature is making clear, what the super-natural is necessary. For example, the General Relativity is the highly established fact, but has the issue of the infinities: infinite curvature, infinite temperature, infinite pressure.... SINGULARITIES in Black Holes, and in Seeming Big Bang. Singularity means, what there is the reality, which is not natural.

If all would be nature, then the word "nature" is meaningless: it does not distinguish one thing from another.

Citations required.

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21-10-2016, 01:41 PM
RE: The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
(21-10-2016 01:15 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Citations required.

Dear friends, there are many variants of YEC [see Wikipedia]. Some good scientists (like the one, who published the 1998-Science paper http://science.sciencemag.org/content/27...-summaries ) are the amazing specialists in the natural laws. They do not deny the nature. Hereby they see, what there is super-natural reality also:
Quote:“mitochondrial Eve”—the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people—lived 100,000 to 200,000 years ago in Africa. Using the new clock, she would be a mere 6000 years old.
Their study of nature is making clear, what the super-natural is necessary. For example, the General Relativity is the highly established fact [see Wikipedia, tests of GR], but has the issue of the infinities: infinite curvature, infinite temperature, infinite pressure....
https://youtu.be/ouXX2R8fq_0
SINGULARITIES in Black Holes, and in Seeming Big Bang. Singularity means, what there is the reality, which is not natural.
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21-10-2016, 01:48 PM
RE: The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
(21-10-2016 01:41 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(21-10-2016 01:15 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Citations required.

Dear friends, there are many variants of YEC [see Wikipedia]. Some good scientists (like the one, who published the 1998-Science paper http://science.sciencemag.org/content/27...-summaries ) are the amazing specialists in the natural laws. They do not deny the nature. Hereby they see, what there is super-natural reality also:
Quote:“mitochondrial Eve”—the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people—lived 100,000 to 200,000 years ago in Africa. Using the new clock, she would be a mere 6000 years old.
Their study of nature is making clear, what the super-natural is necessary. For example, the General Relativity is the highly established fact [see Wikipedia, tests of GR], but has the issue of the infinities: infinite curvature, infinite temperature, infinite pressure....
https://youtu.be/ouXX2R8fq_0
SINGULARITIES in Black Holes, and in Seeming Big Bang. Singularity means, what there is the reality, which is not natural.

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21-10-2016, 01:52 PM
RE: The fine-tuning argument is very powerful. Many brave atheists were defeated. R.I.P.
(21-10-2016 01:41 PM)theBorg Wrote:  SINGULARITIES in Black Holes, and in Seeming Big Bang. Singularity means, what there is the reality, which is not natural.

So you disparage science in one post, then use it to support your arguments in another?

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