The foundational lie in the psyche
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14-07-2014, 02:01 PM
RE: The foundational lie in the psyche
(14-07-2014 01:57 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(14-07-2014 01:53 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Yet he doesn't because he likes seeing children die and be raped? He has thus far made no moves to stop it. So either your God is evil or impotent.
Didn't I already answer this? God is the one being raped when a child is raped. The rapist is controlled by a lie that was implanted on the day he was raped as a child.

No, you skirted the issue God can stop the rapist. Fuck freewill he has never cared before. In you little book of fairy tales he killed people for far less. Yet he does nothing making him complicit in the crime.

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14-07-2014, 02:03 PM
RE: The foundational lie in the psyche
(14-07-2014 02:01 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  No, you skirted the issue God can stop the rapist. Fuck freewill he has never cared before. In you little book of fairy tales he killed people for far less. Yet he does nothing making him complicit in the crime.
He's also overlooking the fact that, even in his scenario, both would be getting raped, not just God. He's only addressing the God part and claiming that answers the point.

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14-07-2014, 02:05 PM
RE: The foundational lie in the psyche
(14-07-2014 02:03 PM)Impulse Wrote:  
(14-07-2014 02:01 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  No, you skirted the issue God can stop the rapist. Fuck freewill he has never cared before. In you little book of fairy tales he killed people for far less. Yet he does nothing making him complicit in the crime.
He's also overlooking the fact that, even in his scenario, both would be getting raped, not just God. He's only addressing the God part and claiming that answers the point.

As I said Biblically based morality is immoral. It is not based on human suffering it is based on appeasing a jealous and insane war god from a bronze age desert tribe.

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14-07-2014, 02:14 PM
RE: The foundational lie in the psyche
(14-07-2014 01:49 PM)childeye Wrote:  
Quote:Incidentally he's a pretty vain motherfucker himself, if that musty old rag of yours is to be believed.
hint: it's not
You're mistaken if you think God the most high had a Mother.

No, just a wife. You do realize "most high" was a standard semitic epithet for their gods, right? As applied to both Elyon and Yahweh by the southern Caananites before those figure were syncretised, and to Melqart up in Tsor among others?

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14-07-2014, 02:37 PM (This post was last modified: 14-07-2014 02:42 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: The foundational lie in the psyche
(14-07-2014 02:14 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(14-07-2014 01:49 PM)childeye Wrote:  You're mistaken if you think God the most high had a Mother.

No, just a wife.

Shekinah.

(14-07-2014 02:14 PM)cjlr Wrote:  You do realize "most high" was a standard semitic epithet for their gods, right? As applied to both Elyon and Yahweh by the southern Caananites before those figure were syncretised, and to Melqart up in Tsor among others?

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14-07-2014, 02:45 PM
RE: The foundational lie in the psyche
(14-07-2014 02:37 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-07-2014 02:14 PM)cjlr Wrote:  No, just a wife.

Shekinah.

(14-07-2014 02:14 PM)cjlr Wrote:  You do realize "most high" was a standard semitic epithet for their gods, right? As applied to both Elyon and Yahweh by the southern Caananites before those figure were syncretised, and to Melqart up in Tsor among others?

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14-07-2014, 04:17 PM
RE: The foundational lie in the psyche
(14-07-2014 01:56 PM)Impulse Wrote:  
(14-07-2014 01:49 PM)childeye Wrote:  No, since vanity is taking God for granted.
According to you, that is.

Dictionary.com says:
Quote:van·i·ty
[van-i-tee] Show IPA

noun, plural van·i·ties.
1. excessive pride in one's appearance, qualities, abilities, achievements, etc.; character or quality of being vain; conceit: Failure to be elected was a great blow to his vanity.
2. an instance or display of this quality or feeling.
3. something about which one is vain.
4. lack of real value; hollowness; worthlessness: the vanity of a selfish life.
5. something worthless, trivial, or pointless.
6. vanity case.
7. dressing table.
8. a wide, counterlike shelf containing a wash basin, as in the bathroom of a hotel or residence, often equipped with shelves, drawers, etc., underneath.
9. a cabinet built below or around a bathroom sink, primarily to hide exposed pipes.
10. compact1 ( def 13 ) .

adjective
11. produced as a showcase for one's own talents, especially as a writer, actor, singer, or composer: a vanity production.
12. of, pertaining to, or issued by a vanity press: a spate of vanity books.
Nope. Not one mention of God at all or taking anything for granted.
Please note that Satan was enamored with himself because he took Gods given attributes as his own in vanity. He therefore took God for granted.
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14-07-2014, 04:26 PM
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(14-07-2014 01:57 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  The issue that ChildEye is failing with here is what is known as the "Problem of Evil" and is an ancient problem.
I already succeeded in answering this. Vanity is the cause of all sin (direction away from God the good). God allows evil to be experienced so that the course of vanity is exposed. God made a path that only the proud would choose. They will learn humility there. His ways are perfect.



Quote:There is no solution to this that allows the an Omnimax being to survive.
This is a false dichotomy.
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14-07-2014, 04:28 PM
RE: The foundational lie in the psyche
(14-07-2014 04:26 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(14-07-2014 01:57 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  The issue that ChildEye is failing with here is what is known as the "Problem of Evil" and is an ancient problem.
I already succeeded in answering this. Vanity is the cause of all sin (direction away from God the good). God allows evil to be experienced so that the course of vanity is exposed. God made a path that only the proud would choose. They will learn humility there. His ways are perfect.



Quote:There is no solution to this that allows the an Omnimax being to survive.
This is a false dichotomy.
He is therefore malevolent...


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14-07-2014, 04:29 PM
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