The global shift.
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13-07-2013, 05:32 PM
RE: The global shift.
(12-01-2013 09:41 AM)bemore Wrote:  With Chinas Economy due to overtake that of America, do we run the risk of slowly becoming third world countries ourselves (over the next 30-50 years)

Thoughts?
Don't worry, the west is going to take the jobs back by automation surpassing abilities of cheap laborers and nobody on both sides of the oceans will have the job opportunities or purchasing power. The system will break down completely because we use money to ration out products and the automated labor cuts people away from the money.



So either people will start breaking machines again like Luddites, or they'll end up on streets like during the Great depression '29, or they'll introduce some kind of machine tax and universal welfare, or they'll say laissez les machines faire! Automate everything like in The Venus Project and live off as dark passengers on pure machine productivity and customizable versatility and with Heisenberg's automated ownership principle (if a machine is able to detect its own failure and order its own repairs, it is impossible to decide who owns it and it does not fucking matter so at any given moment we might have communism, anarchism and Star Trek economy at the same time).

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14-07-2013, 09:08 AM
RE: The global shift.
(13-07-2013 05:32 PM)Luminon Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 09:41 AM)bemore Wrote:  With Chinas Economy due to overtake that of America, do we run the risk of slowly becoming third world countries ourselves (over the next 30-50 years)

Thoughts?
Don't worry, the west is going to take the jobs back by automation surpassing abilities of cheap laborers and nobody on both sides of the oceans will have the job opportunities or purchasing power. The system will break down completely because we use money to ration out products and the automated labor cuts people away from the money.



So either people will start breaking machines again like Luddites, or they'll end up on streets like during the Great depression '29, or they'll introduce some kind of machine tax and universal welfare, or they'll say laissez les machines faire! Automate everything like in The Venus Project and live off as dark passengers on pure machine productivity and customizable versatility and with Heisenberg's automated ownership principle (if a machine is able to detect its own failure and order its own repairs, it is impossible to decide who owns it and it does not fucking matter so at any given moment we might have communism, anarchism and Star Trek economy at the same time).

Yeah, since the Industrial Revolution (or heck, even the Neolithic Revolution if you like) the majority of people have been unemployed due to the original source of making a living disappeared, right? Right?

No

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