The hypocracy of atheism
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20-08-2014, 06:13 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 06:11 PM)Deidre32 Wrote:  The topic here and this whole discussion around it, reminds me of a conversation I had with one of my religious friends who said that ''even though you (meaning me) disbelieve in a god, that in and of itself is a belief. You have your own sets of beliefs, but they are just not religious in nature.'' Paraphrasing.

That is the closest I could see to what diddo might be trying to get at, without reading through 20+ pages.

My friend doesn't have anything against atheists, but she merely pointed out that it's a belief, to not believe. Maybe. From a philosophical view point.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that atheism is absurd because all knowledge requires God.

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20-08-2014, 06:20 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 06:12 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(20-08-2014 06:04 PM)Stevil Wrote:  When observing emission of light wavelengths normally there is a range rather than only one precise frequency.
Has a spectrometer been used to verify this assertion that only one colour at a time is present in the emission from a traffic light?

Also what frame of reference is being used?
If we are traveling very fast away from the traffic light then it will be red shifted so for us it may appear as a different colour than what an observer stationary to the traffic light would see.

So, who is it that sees the truth? The person stationary to the traffic light or the person moving away from it?

If your mind is fallible, your position is absurd.

You're the one unable to define his terms and defend his position. I would say that makes you the absurd one.

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20-08-2014, 06:27 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 06:12 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  If your mind is fallible, your position is absurd.
We could take the mind out of the equation, instead set up a couple of automated observers (camera and computer) that records the observed wavelengths.
We still have the problem where the stationary observer and the moving observer view different colour ranges. Which observation represents the absolute truth?
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20-08-2014, 06:32 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 06:13 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(20-08-2014 06:11 PM)Deidre32 Wrote:  The topic here and this whole discussion around it, reminds me of a conversation I had with one of my religious friends who said that ''even though you (meaning me) disbelieve in a god, that in and of itself is a belief. You have your own sets of beliefs, but they are just not religious in nature.'' Paraphrasing.

That is the closest I could see to what diddo might be trying to get at, without reading through 20+ pages.

My friend doesn't have anything against atheists, but she merely pointed out that it's a belief, to not believe. Maybe. From a philosophical view point.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that atheism is absurd because all knowledge requires God.

Gasp

brb...going back to religion.

not serious.

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20-08-2014, 07:03 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 05:26 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 04:27 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  I have an answer to a question. Do you even know what the word dogma means?

Pro tip: "I don't believe your undemonstated claim" is not a dogmatic position.

See its stuff like this which is why I think your a dumb cunt. I'd think you were a dumb cunt if I believed in god too so its independent of my atheism.

You're
Other than that.....well done YOU
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20-08-2014, 07:09 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 06:13 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  I'm not saying that. I'm saying that atheism is absurd because all knowledge requires God.

I'm curious. Were you born this fucking stupid or is there like.... a class you have to take some place?
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20-08-2014, 07:31 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 07:09 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(20-08-2014 06:13 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  I'm not saying that. I'm saying that atheism is absurd because all knowledge requires God.

I'm curious. Were you born this fucking stupid or is there like.... a class you have to take some place?

Sye Ten Bruggencate convinced me. There is no way out of his arguments. I was pretty much a fundimentalist atheist before I encountered him.

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20-08-2014, 07:31 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 06:27 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(20-08-2014 06:12 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  If your mind is fallible, your position is absurd.
We could take the mind out of the equation, instead set up a couple of automated observers (camera and computer) that records the observed wavelengths.
We still have the problem where the stationary observer and the moving observer view different colour ranges. Which observation represents the absolute truth?

God's.

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20-08-2014, 07:33 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
Is the traffic light Green, yes or no? You said everything has to be absolute to make sense so what is your absolute answer?

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20-08-2014, 07:35 PM
RE: The hypocracy of atheism
(20-08-2014 07:31 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(20-08-2014 07:09 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  I'm curious. Were you born this fucking stupid or is there like.... a class you have to take some place?

Sye Ten Bruggencate convinced me. There is no way out of his arguments. I was pretty much a fundimentalist atheist before I encountered him.

No further explanation needed for the stupidity. Thanks for clearing that up.
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