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24-01-2014, 03:05 PM
The indigenous people of North America
Are the indigenous people of North America really offended by sports mascots? I don't hear Scandinavian people complaining about the Minnesota Vikings; why is there such a stink about the Atlanta Braves, or the Washington Redskins?
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24-01-2014, 03:24 PM
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The PC brigade is getting worse. I just cannot see anything offensieve about such names.

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24-01-2014, 04:27 PM
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(24-01-2014 03:24 PM)Marozz Wrote:  The PC brigade is getting worse. I just cannot see anything offensieve about such names.

I have no problem with Braves as a team name (although I think their fans' "tomahawk chop" is both offensive and stupid), but Redskins? You really don't think that's offensive? What if were the Washington Blackskins (or Yellowskins)? Do you think that would be tolerated? I don't get all worked up over it, and I think there are more important things to worry about, but when you think about it, it is offensive.
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24-01-2014, 04:33 PM
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(24-01-2014 03:24 PM)Marozz Wrote:  The PC brigade is getting worse. I just cannot see anything offensieve about such names.

It's not the PC brigade, it's the native peoples themselves objecting to them as offensive.

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24-01-2014, 04:37 PM
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I doubt that.

Since I believe they have other things to worry about.

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24-01-2014, 04:39 PM
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(24-01-2014 04:37 PM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  I doubt that.

Since I believe they have other things to worry about.

You doubt what? Your response lacks any context.

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24-01-2014, 04:47 PM
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(24-01-2014 04:37 PM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  I doubt that.

Since I believe they have other things to worry about.

They do have other (more important) things to worry about, but they are also offended, and legitimately so, by team names like Redskins. It is possible to be worried about more than one thing at a time.
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24-01-2014, 04:48 PM
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I have no problem with Braves as a team name (although I think their fans' "tomahawk chop" is both offensive and stupid), but Redskins? You really don't think that's offensive? What if were the Washington Blackskins (or Yellowskins)? Do you think that would be tolerated? I don't get all worked up over it, and I think there are more important things to worry about, but when you think about it, it is offensive.
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Like you say there are more important things in life. I don't live in the US so I'm not really up to date on the issue, but I don't find Redskins as a name offensive. But if people are offended and want to make an issue of it, change it.. .. Whiteskins, Foreskins.... who cares.

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24-01-2014, 05:06 PM
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It seems ridiculous to me that someone can't see why "Vikings" isn't offensive, but "Redskins" is.

In fact I think the OP does see the difference and is choosing to act oblivious. I can think of a couple reasons (the desire to justify ones own prejudice, the enjoyment some people get out of being an anonymous asshole on the internet, etc.), though I'm sure there's some sort of wonderful justification coming.

Whatever the case may be, is it really a big deal to change it if it upsets someone? Especially if it's a racial slur like "redskins"??

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24-01-2014, 05:18 PM
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I might have an incomplete picture of the situation on the American continent.

But from what I read in papers here, the main concerns of the native Americans is poverty and alcoholism resulting out of racial discrimination and former segregation.

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