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11-12-2015, 10:22 PM
RE: The internet world says this
(11-12-2015 09:55 PM)Theorist Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 09:39 PM)Chas Wrote:  You do not understand probability.

Go learn elementary probability. I suggest Khan Academy.

By the way, if you are using your understanding of probability to play poker, you're going to lose your shirt. Drinking Beverage

Prob(0 aces in new deck) = 0.01557
Prob(1 aces in new deck) = 0.06749
Prob(2 aces in new deck) = 0.14340
Prob(3 aces in new deck) = 0.19917
Prob(4 aces in new deck) = 0.20332
Prob(5 aces in new deck) = 0.16265

Prob(6 aces in new deck) = 0.10618
Prob(7 aces in new deck) = 0.05814
Prob(8 aces in new deck) = 0.02726
Prob(9 aces in new deck) = 0.01110
Prob(10 aces in new deck) = 0.00398

Prob(11 aces in new deck) = 1.266E-3
Prob(12 aces in new deck) = 3.605E-4
Prob(13 aces in new deck) = 9.243E-5
Prob(14 aces in new deck) = 2.146E-5
Prob(15 aces in new deck) = 4.530E-6

Prob(16 aces in new deck) = 8.729E-7
Prob(17 aces in new deck) = 1.540E-7
Prob(18 aces in new deck) = 2.496E-8
Prob(19 aces in new deck) = 3.722E-9
Prob(20 aces in new deck) = 5.118E-10

Prob(21 aces in new deck) = 6.499E-11
Prob(22 aces in new deck) = 7.631E-12
Prob(23 aces in new deck) = 8.295E-13
Prob(24 aces in new deck) = 8.353E-14
Prob(25 aces in new deck) = 7.796E-15

Prob(26 aces in new deck) = 6.746E-16
Prob(27 aces in new deck) = 5.414E-17
Prob(28 aces in new deck) = 4.028E-18
Prob(29 aces in new deck) = 2.778E-19
Prob(30 aces in new deck) = 1.775E-20

Prob(31 aces in new deck) = 1.050E-21
Prob(32 aces in new deck) = 5.740E-23
Prob(33 aces in new deck) = 2.899E-24
Prob(34 aces in new deck) = 1.350E-25
Prob(35 aces in new deck) = 5.786E-27

Prob(36 aces in new deck) = 2.277E-28
Prob(37 aces in new deck) = 8.205E-30
Prob(38 aces in new deck) = 2.699E-31
Prob(39 aces in new deck) = 8.074E-33
Prob(40 aces in new deck) = 2.187E-34

Prob(41 aces in new deck) = 5.333E-36
Prob(42 aces in new deck) = 1.164E-37
Prob(43 aces in new deck) = 2.256E-39
Prob(44 aces in new deck) = 3.845E-41
Prob(45 aces in new deck) = 5.697E-43

Prob(46 aces in new deck) = 7.224E-45
Prob(47 aces in new deck) = 7.685E-47
Prob(48 aces in new deck) = 6.671E-49
Prob(49 aces in new deck) = 4.538E-51
Prob(50 aces in new deck) = 2.269E-53

Prob(51 aces in new deck) = 7.415E-56
Prob(52 aces in new deck) = 1.188E-58


Do the maths,
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11-12-2015, 10:41 PM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2015 11:19 PM by Fireball.)
RE: The internet world says this
(11-12-2015 10:17 PM)Theorist Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 10:08 PM)Fireball Wrote:  ...finally produces some "math". I want the deck with 52 aces in it. Laugh out load Dude, you are fucked up like a soup sandwich.

Just compare all that to a standard deck,


a standard deck

prob 0 aces = 0% No it is 1, a standard deck has 4 aces
prob 1 ace =0% NO, it is 1, a standard deck has 4 aces
prob 2 aces= 0% NO, it is 1, a standard deck has 4 aces
prob 3 aces =0% No it is 1, a standard deck has 4 aces
prob 4 aces = 100% Bazinga!
prob 5 aces = 0% You must be one of those cheaters who has an extra ace up his sleeve. What the fuck is the suit of the fifth ace, dunce?

etc etc 0% the rest of the way

Do you have a paypal account? I could send you a dollar and you could go buy a clue. Get a book on introductory probability and statistics. Your level of ignorance will be embarrassing, in retrospect, once you work through some basics.
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11-12-2015, 10:46 PM
RE: The internet world says this
It's all in the delivery and our Theorist here is a bull in a china shop.

You could be completely right in what you are saying and no one would give a flying fuck because of your demeanor.

Compound the horrible bedside manner with your repetitive nonsense and you won't be here for long.

You're not here to discuss or exchange ideas, you're here because you simply want to feel superior to anyone that will sit still long enough to listen to your "hypothesis".

As my esteemed colleague already said, "piss off".

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11-12-2015, 10:48 PM
RE: The internet world says this
(11-12-2015 09:55 PM)Theorist Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 09:39 PM)Chas Wrote:  You do not understand probability.

Go learn elementary probability. I suggest Khan Academy.

By the way, if you are using your understanding of probability to play poker, you're going to lose your shirt. Drinking Beverage

Prob(0 aces in new deck) = 0.01557
Prob(1 aces in new deck) = 0.06749
Prob(2 aces in new deck) = 0.14340
Prob(3 aces in new deck) = 0.19917
Prob(4 aces in new deck) = 0.20332
Prob(5 aces in new deck) = 0.16265

Prob(6 aces in new deck) = 0.10618
Prob(7 aces in new deck) = 0.05814
Prob(8 aces in new deck) = 0.02726
Prob(9 aces in new deck) = 0.01110
Prob(10 aces in new deck) = 0.00398

Prob(11 aces in new deck) = 1.266E-3
Prob(12 aces in new deck) = 3.605E-4
Prob(13 aces in new deck) = 9.243E-5
Prob(14 aces in new deck) = 2.146E-5
Prob(15 aces in new deck) = 4.530E-6

Prob(16 aces in new deck) = 8.729E-7
Prob(17 aces in new deck) = 1.540E-7
Prob(18 aces in new deck) = 2.496E-8
Prob(19 aces in new deck) = 3.722E-9
Prob(20 aces in new deck) = 5.118E-10

Prob(21 aces in new deck) = 6.499E-11
Prob(22 aces in new deck) = 7.631E-12
Prob(23 aces in new deck) = 8.295E-13
Prob(24 aces in new deck) = 8.353E-14
Prob(25 aces in new deck) = 7.796E-15

Prob(26 aces in new deck) = 6.746E-16
Prob(27 aces in new deck) = 5.414E-17
Prob(28 aces in new deck) = 4.028E-18
Prob(29 aces in new deck) = 2.778E-19
Prob(30 aces in new deck) = 1.775E-20

Prob(31 aces in new deck) = 1.050E-21
Prob(32 aces in new deck) = 5.740E-23
Prob(33 aces in new deck) = 2.899E-24
Prob(34 aces in new deck) = 1.350E-25
Prob(35 aces in new deck) = 5.786E-27

Prob(36 aces in new deck) = 2.277E-28
Prob(37 aces in new deck) = 8.205E-30
Prob(38 aces in new deck) = 2.699E-31
Prob(39 aces in new deck) = 8.074E-33
Prob(40 aces in new deck) = 2.187E-34

Prob(41 aces in new deck) = 5.333E-36
Prob(42 aces in new deck) = 1.164E-37
Prob(43 aces in new deck) = 2.256E-39
Prob(44 aces in new deck) = 3.845E-41
Prob(45 aces in new deck) = 5.697E-43

Prob(46 aces in new deck) = 7.224E-45
Prob(47 aces in new deck) = 7.685E-47
Prob(48 aces in new deck) = 6.671E-49
Prob(49 aces in new deck) = 4.538E-51
Prob(50 aces in new deck) = 2.269E-53

Prob(51 aces in new deck) = 7.415E-56
Prob(52 aces in new deck) = 1.188E-58


Do the maths,

So? That doesn't help answer the question.

What is the probability of drawing an ace from a shuffled deck? 1 in 13.
Repeat that once for each of 52 decks and the expected value of the number of aces in the resulting deck is 52 x 1/13 = 4.

Repeat the whole process and the average number of aces will converge to 4.

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11-12-2015, 11:18 PM
RE: The internet world says this
(11-12-2015 10:46 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  It's all in the delivery and our Theorist here is a bull in a china shop.

You could be completely right in what you are saying and no one would give a flying fuck because of your demeanor.

Compound the horrible bedside manner with your repetitive nonsense and you won't be here for long.

You're not here to discuss or exchange ideas, you're here because you simply want to feel superior to anyone that will sit still long enough to listen to your "hypothesis".

As my esteemed colleague already said, "piss off".

I must confess that I don't understand why this guy posts this crap here, and has made it 28 pages, so far. But then, I don't understand insanity, either.
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12-12-2015, 04:09 AM
RE: The internet world says this
(11-12-2015 07:59 PM)Theorist Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 07:50 PM)Slowminded Wrote:  Threads you made there are almost identical copies of your thread here. And you got identical responses as here, people try to explain to you that you are wrong until they get sick of you and lock the threads.

I think you are just trolling, I have had agreement, they just don't agree they agreed.

I am trolling? And , no, they didn`t agree with you.

Some of the responses you got:

Quote:OK well, I am done. The thing you did there is not math. It's meaningless garbage.

Quote:Look, you had your little run, but you need a new gimmick troll account because this one's used up. Next time see if you can get to 100 posts.

Quote:Recycled troll confirmed. Whether he believes his nonsense is debatable.

Quote:This is gibberish.

Quote:I can't believe we're still responding to this guy.

Quote:You getting a math problem wrong isn't a paradox.

Quote:You've bamboozled us with something, but certainly not maths. Whatever it is you're doing isn't math.

Quote:This makes no sense to me. If you know the population in the box of course you can work out the probabilities.

Quote: You’ve been pointed out wrong a number of times. You conveniently ignore those postings or respond with a bunch of nonsense that noone can understand.

Quote:pkdk - You're not too bright, are you. Sorry for wasting your time.

Quote: Nothing is showing you are correct. In fact, everything is showing you are wrong.


Quote:That is not math. It is gibberish.

Quote:
Quote: Originally Posted by pkdk
Most of you have already admitted an inequality.
No.

Quote:You don't get to include yourself in "we". You don't know basic probability, which is why you need to watch that Khan series. If Khan can't make you see the light then there's no hope for you and math just isn't for you.

Quote:You are being patronized for amusement, nothing more. Probability rules are not something complex that need to be "perceived". The math is simple, the axioms are simple, the result is predictable, and your handwaving about paradox and complexity is irrelevant to that.


I think it`s safe to say that nobody there agreed with you. I am amazed at the level of patience they showed dealing with you.

And btw , when @heehaww tells you your math is wrong, it is wrong.

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12-12-2015, 04:43 AM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2015 06:20 AM by Slowminded.)
RE: The internet world says this
(11-12-2015 10:48 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 09:55 PM)Theorist Wrote:  Prob(0 aces in new deck) = 0.01557
Prob(1 aces in new deck) = 0.06749
Prob(2 aces in new deck) = 0.14340
Prob(3 aces in new deck) = 0.19917
Prob(4 aces in new deck) = 0.20332
Prob(5 aces in new deck) = 0.16265

Prob(6 aces in new deck) = 0.10618
Prob(7 aces in new deck) = 0.05814
Prob(8 aces in new deck) = 0.02726
Prob(9 aces in new deck) = 0.01110
Prob(10 aces in new deck) = 0.00398

Prob(11 aces in new deck) = 1.266E-3
Prob(12 aces in new deck) = 3.605E-4
Prob(13 aces in new deck) = 9.243E-5
Prob(14 aces in new deck) = 2.146E-5
Prob(15 aces in new deck) = 4.530E-6

Prob(16 aces in new deck) = 8.729E-7
Prob(17 aces in new deck) = 1.540E-7
Prob(18 aces in new deck) = 2.496E-8
Prob(19 aces in new deck) = 3.722E-9
Prob(20 aces in new deck) = 5.118E-10

Prob(21 aces in new deck) = 6.499E-11
Prob(22 aces in new deck) = 7.631E-12
Prob(23 aces in new deck) = 8.295E-13
Prob(24 aces in new deck) = 8.353E-14
Prob(25 aces in new deck) = 7.796E-15

Prob(26 aces in new deck) = 6.746E-16
Prob(27 aces in new deck) = 5.414E-17
Prob(28 aces in new deck) = 4.028E-18
Prob(29 aces in new deck) = 2.778E-19
Prob(30 aces in new deck) = 1.775E-20

Prob(31 aces in new deck) = 1.050E-21
Prob(32 aces in new deck) = 5.740E-23
Prob(33 aces in new deck) = 2.899E-24
Prob(34 aces in new deck) = 1.350E-25
Prob(35 aces in new deck) = 5.786E-27

Prob(36 aces in new deck) = 2.277E-28
Prob(37 aces in new deck) = 8.205E-30
Prob(38 aces in new deck) = 2.699E-31
Prob(39 aces in new deck) = 8.074E-33
Prob(40 aces in new deck) = 2.187E-34

Prob(41 aces in new deck) = 5.333E-36
Prob(42 aces in new deck) = 1.164E-37
Prob(43 aces in new deck) = 2.256E-39
Prob(44 aces in new deck) = 3.845E-41
Prob(45 aces in new deck) = 5.697E-43

Prob(46 aces in new deck) = 7.224E-45
Prob(47 aces in new deck) = 7.685E-47
Prob(48 aces in new deck) = 6.671E-49
Prob(49 aces in new deck) = 4.538E-51
Prob(50 aces in new deck) = 2.269E-53

Prob(51 aces in new deck) = 7.415E-56
Prob(52 aces in new deck) = 1.188E-58


Do the maths,

So? That doesn't help answer the question.

What is the probability of drawing an ace from a shuffled deck? 1 in 13.
Repeat that once for each of 52 decks and the expected value of the number of aces in the resulting deck is 52 x 1/13 = 4.

Repeat the whole process and the average number of aces will converge to 4.

There is no use in explaining this to the Theorist, it has been explained to him by people who make their living of understanding the probabilities in the same manner you are explaining this to him. He will remain stubborn regardless.

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12-12-2015, 04:47 AM
RE: The internet world says this
So how about that theo-wrist action eh?

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12-12-2015, 04:58 AM
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(11-12-2015 08:57 PM)Theorist Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 08:54 PM)DLJ Wrote:  It does.

And what's wrong with being a narcissist?

Consider
They don't listen to logical reasoning.

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12-12-2015, 05:50 AM
RE: The internet world says this
(12-12-2015 04:58 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 08:57 PM)Theorist Wrote:  They don't listen to logical reasoning.

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