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27-04-2011, 01:44 AM
RE: The legalization of marijuana and other drugs
Don't know if this was mentioned already (as I'm too lazy to read through all the posts) but ~60% of the Mexicans Cartels revenue come from Marijuana. Imagine if you could cut their revenue by 60% simply by legalizing marijuana, what a blow that would be to them.

Of course there are the economic advantages to legalizing weed but that's not why I'm interested in it becoming legal and decriminalized. I think its a moral/philosophical issue. I'm a libertarian (Anarcho-syndicalist to be precise) and believe no one should be restricting the use of narcotics on an individual. If you look at the history of hemp and why it was made illegal you'll see how screwed up this is.

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27-04-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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(27-04-2011 01:44 AM)sosa Wrote:  ...If you look at the history of hemp and why it was made illegal you'll see how screwed up this is.

I'm going to have to research what an Anarcho-syndicalist is. Smile

And you're right. I don't recall the name, but it was in the early 1900's I believe that a Billionaire petitioned to have hemp declared illegal, so that he could insure the dominance of the textiles market with cotton.

It's like anything wherein someone wants an exclusive marketing right, patent, etc... big money!

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29-04-2011, 08:42 PM
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I totally agree that definitely soft drugs and maybe some hard drugs should be legalised but it's never gonna happen. It's political suicide. We have to be realistic and face the fact that too larger proportion of society still hold ideals (such as a drug-less society) instead of accepting a more realistic viewpoint, and these retards fuck it up for the rest of us. I live in England and I see all these cuts to health and police budgets and know that we could probably avoid them just by legalising marijuana but some people are against the 'principle' of it and fail to see the bigger picture, its so frustrating.

I'm all for democracy and all that but a little bit of me sometimes thinks that people who so clearly don't understand how the world really works shouldn't get any say in how it's run (ie. a vote).
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03-05-2011, 10:57 AM
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Hughsie,

I get your frustration, but there really is progress happening. Here in Canada the ball is rolling. It's extremely slow, but if you look closely, you can see it moving. That may seem like it's irrelevant to you, since you don't live here, but progress has a tendancy to spread. Even beyond borders and oceans.

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04-05-2011, 01:35 AM
 
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Legalize it. We spend more time and money fucking around trying to get rid of the stuff than what it's worth. Legalize all of it. People who are retarded enough to do heroine and meth are going to do it anyways, illegal or not. The money we spend (unfruitfully) keeping it out of their hands could be spent in better places.
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04-05-2011, 02:55 AM
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I would like to say only one thing. There are no soft or hard drugs, there are drugs and no-drugs. Marijuana is NOT a drug. Drugs are substances that: are bad for your health, make you addicted and too much of the substance can kill you, and marijuana does not fit in any of these 3 categories. Check out my other post in Science section, Cannabinoids and cancer.

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04-05-2011, 08:16 AM
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Drug

1. (Medicine / Pharmacology) any synthetic, semisynthetic, or natural chemical substance used in the treatment, prevention, or diagnosis of disease, or for other medical reasons
2. (Law / Recreational Drugs) a chemical substance, esp a narcotic, taken for the pleasant effects it produces

Marijuana is most definitely a drug. It is used to treat medical conditions such as nausia and pain. It is also used for it's pleasant effects.
Not sure where you found your definition of "drug" but I have never heard it and could not find a similar definition.

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04-05-2011, 09:17 AM
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Of course you didn't, that is my definition. Smile And yeah, I disregarded the medicinal term "drug", I kinda focused on The Drugs. But by the law, alcohol and tobacco are not drugs, yet they fit in your category. So it is not very precise. My definition comes from the way media and police are classifying illegal substances and from logic. In my definition alcohol and tobacco are drugs, but weed is not and I think that is much more closer to the truth than any other definition you may find.

And of course, this can be debated over and over, so feel free to use whatever definition fits you best.

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04-05-2011, 09:23 AM
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Don't get me wrong Filox. I am very "pro-weed". I just think that making up our own definitions diminishes our credibility. Isn't it better to correct the use of the word when it's used incorrectly?
I don't know that I'd take this debate this far with anyone else, but you have alot of real knowledge, so I like to hone my arguments with you so we can both be better "spokes people" for canabis.

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04-05-2011, 09:44 AM
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If only you knew how stressed I am at the moment, you can all be happy I'm not yelling and screaming on all of you. Smile
So that would be my excuse for my behavior today, I can not be peaceful and calm today, so that is why some of my post sound a bit annoying and hasted. And if you think about "my" definition of The Drugs, you will see how simple, yet perfect it is. Pure logic, nothing else. But you are right, I should have pointed out that that was my opinion, not official statement or definition.

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