The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
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13-10-2014, 05:30 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:26 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 05:24 PM)Cetaceaphile Wrote:  If people refuse to use the built in forum features which are put there to protect them then what on earth can you do? You can't start blaming other people and then saying you are being victimised for being told to use the built in protection features. It's like a soldier who refuses to wear his kevlar and then sues the army after getting his lung shot out.

Nice analogy. I was trying to think of one but you've beaten me to it. I like analogies. Smile

Yes great analogy because... You know... Losty made a life decision to put herself in a situation to be harassed (you know, like deciding to go off to war or join the army). You're right.. She probably asked it Dodgy [/sarcasm]

More victim blaming.

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13-10-2014, 05:32 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:30 PM)FSM_scot Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 05:10 PM)Anjele Wrote:  As long as there is an ability to post on the board then there isn't total power to stop it.

Unless you really want your good members to give up and leave.

Part of the reason I left was the whole do nothing mentality. Not banning someone for giving a controversial opinion is something to be proud of.

Not banning a troll, someone who is actively stalking a member, harassing them or in general is cancerous to the forum is not something to be proud of, its just plain stupid. There's a reason this place loses so many fantastic users and attracts so many arseholes.

Sometimes the ban hammer just needs to be swung.

And I am quite sure the majority of the members agree with that. There is a tiny minority who don't get it.

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13-10-2014, 05:32 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:30 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 05:24 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  Fair enough, but it's not who you think it is.

You don't actually know who I think it is.

You've been throwing his name around a bit.

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13-10-2014, 05:33 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:30 PM)FSM_scot Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 05:10 PM)Anjele Wrote:  As long as there is an ability to post on the board then there isn't total power to stop it.

Unless you really want your good members to give up and leave.

Part of the reason I left was the whole do nothing mentality. Not banning someone for giving a controversial opinion is something to be proud of.

Not banning a troll, someone who is actively stalking a member, harassing them or in general is cancerous to the forum is not something to be proud of, its just plain stupid. There's a reason this place loses so many fantastic users and attracts so many arseholes.

Sometimes the ban hammer just needs to be swung.

Ironically it seems like most of the arse holes have got 3 figure reputations, so maybe the entire environment is poison?

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13-10-2014, 05:33 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
Tell ya all what, as there seem to be some opinions that are not quite matching up between myself and a few more vocal people, if any of those people wanna Skype me and explain what they're saying in a way that is far more efficient than on the forum, then shoot me a PM. I'll pass on whatever you want to be heard to the Admins when I next speak to them.

Of course I reserve the right to decide whether I actually wanna Skype with people on an individual basis.

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13-10-2014, 05:34 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:32 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 05:30 PM)Chas Wrote:  You don't actually know who I think it is.

You've been throwing his name around a bit.

I've thrown at least 3 around trying to get a rise.

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13-10-2014, 05:36 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:26 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 05:17 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  Yes, because the victims of such harassment are the ones to be blamed. Perhaps said victims wouldn't need to take such drastic measure furthering their own suffering, if said powers that be weren't so pathetically obsessed with be the forum that doesn't ban people. Sadly, however, this is not the case. So I, being a member and hopefully being granted the same amount of free speech that you all love to give to trolls, am giving advice that I think might work.
If someone has threatened you, stalked you, and harassed you the admins and Hughsie do not care. Especially if that someone did these things outside of this forum. Nevermind your triggered PTSD. Nevermind your mental and emotional health. Nevermind your desire to protect other forum members from someone with an obvious mental health condition.
I went about it all wrong. I apologize to those who had to endure a small amount of the harassment I saw. If you want to learn something from my experience, learn this: do not delete you email account and do not ignore your stalker. Respond to every PM with please stop doing this and report every single PM you get. Make posts tell everyone exactly what happened so that if they aren't protected at least you don't have to feel guilty about it. Make a stir. Sometimes things are done wrong and sometimes when you think things need to change you have to piss off a few higher powers to get there. This standing up and speaking out it's not my thing. It's not something I do. I feel all shaky and freaked out right now, but things need to change and I feel morally obligated to speak out. Don't like anyone guilt you into thinking it's your fault that you're being harassed. Don't let them tell you you're not a victim if you don't put your stalker on ignore, because sadly that's the only way to get anything done here. Lastly, and most importantly, when you feel threatened make a report with your local police. They will tell you what you can do to be more protected and keep your family safe just in case.
Wow. Please excuse my rambling. This is a really hard topic for me to discuss without crying or being ill. But I thought it was an important thing to share.
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Keep records, make reports, document things, take screen shots...not only of any harassment but also of any brushoffs when you have asked for help.

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13-10-2014, 05:36 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:33 PM)Cetaceaphile Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 05:30 PM)FSM_scot Wrote:  Part of the reason I left was the whole do nothing mentality. Not banning someone for giving a controversial opinion is something to be proud of.

Not banning a troll, someone who is actively stalking a member, harassing them or in general is cancerous to the forum is not something to be proud of, its just plain stupid. There's a reason this place loses so many fantastic users and attracts so many arseholes.

Sometimes the ban hammer just needs to be swung.

Ironically it seems like most of the arse holes have got 3 figure reputations, so maybe the entire environment is poison?

You're welcome to go elsewhere.

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13-10-2014, 05:37 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:33 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  Tell ya all what, as there seem to be some opinions that are not quite matching up between myself and a few more vocal people, if any of those people wanna Skype me and explain what they're saying in a way that is far more efficient than on the forum, then shoot me a PM. I'll pass on whatever you want to be heard to the Admins when I next speak to them.

Of course I reserve the right to decide whether I actually wanna Skype with people on an individual basis.

From what people say - you like to bash me on Skype - I think I will pass - course I am probably one of those you wouldn't accept so it's not really an issue.

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13-10-2014, 05:39 PM
RE: The link between female promiscuity and disloyalty
(13-10-2014 05:32 PM)Chas Wrote:  And I am quite sure the majority of the members agree with that. There is a tiny minority who don't get it.

And the thing is banning the people who are screaming to be banned wouldn't change who we are as a forum, it would only add to the place since people would be willing to stay.

This isn't about removing someone just because we don't like what they say its about removing those who are here to cause harm and no good.
Lots of things have changed around here except the one thing that would make the biggest possible impact on the place. Some people just need to be removed for their actions.

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