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07-01-2015, 05:44 AM
The omniscient one
Very simple question: Why would an omniscient God create people he knew would reject him? Why not just skip their existence and save yourself the headache? If we are created to worship God why give us freewill to reject him?
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07-01-2015, 05:49 AM
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Welcome.
If you believe in creation, then just ignore that rational stuff, it's inconvenient. Smile
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07-01-2015, 05:50 AM
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(07-01-2015 05:44 AM)jarrettleerose Wrote:  Very simple question: Why would an omniscient God create people he knew would reject him? Why not just skip their existence and save yourself the headache? If we are created to worship God why give us freewill to reject him?

Because when you combine it with omnipotence, not even god need to follow his own logic.

Also, Jesus... or something... Undecided

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07-01-2015, 06:14 AM
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Why do you give your Sims free will? it's more fun with that mode turned on.

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07-01-2015, 06:24 AM
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(07-01-2015 05:44 AM)jarrettleerose Wrote:  Very simple question: Why would an omniscient God create people he knew would reject him? Why not just skip their existence and save yourself the headache? If we are created to worship God why give us freewill to reject him?

It falls apart fast when you ask questions like that.

Why does god need worship? What does that say about a god that needs something of that nature? (nothing good)

Why does god need the kind of love that's arrived at by free will? Why does he seem to be ok with love that's the result of fear of hell?

Why does god allow anyone to be placed in hell? Why couldn't he simply remove all consciousness after unbelievers die? Or reincarnate them with memories to give them another chance?

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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07-01-2015, 06:36 AM
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ClydeLee the theory that we're all players in God's fucked up mind game actually makes more sense than any other. If he is Omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent then he is no doubt the most sinister being in the universe
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07-01-2015, 01:53 PM
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There is no such thing as free will. The Bible does not teach free will.

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07-01-2015, 01:59 PM
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(07-01-2015 01:53 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  There is no such thing as free will. The Bible does not teach free will.

Through my free will, I use reason and evidence to reject the Bible as authoritative in matters concerning reality. Drinking Beverage

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08-01-2015, 09:54 AM
RE: The omniscient one
(07-01-2015 05:44 AM)jarrettleerose Wrote:  Very simple question: Why would an omniscient God create people he knew would reject him? Why not just skip their existence and save yourself the headache? If we are created to worship God why give us freewill to reject him?

Obviously, he wanted to reject them. That's the whole problem with the notion of "God's will": everything that's happened did so because he wanted it.
  • People get abortions? God wanted it.
  • People subsequently blow up abortion clinics because abortions offend God? God wanted it.
  • Christians commit crimes in God's name? God wanted it.
  • Other Christians get offended at those actions? God wanted it.
It gets to the point where wondering about what God does or doesn't want is stupid and pointless. He's going to tautologically get his way under that paradigm, so who cares?
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08-01-2015, 10:29 AM
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I was forced to look up a word when you said tautologically. *shocked* Tongue
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