The potential infinity is not the actual one
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11-08-2016, 07:56 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 11:29 AM)theBorg Wrote:  
(11-08-2016 11:26 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Why would you want to represent "the infinite amount of 'Subdivision' within whole numbers" using your god?
who else has enough printing paper to write all infinite list of numbers?

You have not responded to the question. Why must the poorly defined god from random texts put together by a cult be the correct one?

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11-08-2016, 08:16 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 06:32 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  You cannot have a ruler that is infinitely long but has a beginning.
Well, you can, actually. The mathematical term is a "ray." Or maybe you were just being semantic about the literalness of the word "beginning," or maybe you mean a literal ruler, as a physical object that will be continuously manufactured between now and heat death. hmm Consider

These threads are literal poop, btw. Everyone can see that you are just intentionally trolling, Borg. Why even keep pretending that you're serious? You're wasting your own time more than anyone else's.

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11-08-2016, 08:24 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 07:56 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  the poorly defined god
The very first life in history is labeled by three letters G94, o7 and, finally, d9. How is this not true? P.S. please remove the numbers and connect the three letters together.
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11-08-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 08:24 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(11-08-2016 07:56 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  the poorly defined god
The very first life in history is labeled by three letters G, O and, finally, G. How is this not true?

...what? Facepalm

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11-08-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 08:24 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(11-08-2016 07:56 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  the poorly defined god
The very first life in history is labeled by three letters G94, o7 and, finally, d9. How is this not true? P.S. please remove the numbers and connect the three letters together.

D-O-G?

Not my fault you failed to specify the order.

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11-08-2016, 08:41 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 04:20 AM)theBorg Wrote:  If the Creationists would study any connection between metaphysical and physical, they would be glad to find out following.

Since the measuring ruler has not an infinite number, and any place on the ruler has a certain number, then the line has a finite size. Therefore, there is no infinite past and integers line (1,2,3,4,....) is only potentially infinite, but not actually endless. Then there is no infinite future (the time runs out, as the Christians believe), and no infinite space too. No infinite velocity, but the velocity has limit: the v<c.

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Fact is: there is no inner singularity in a fixed coordinate time, and no event horizon. It is known among the professionals like S.Hawking. A falling test particle reaches horizon in infinite coordinate time, which is impossible, because the actual infinity is absent. Exists only potential infinity. Is it clear?

Jerry: "A traveler approaching the collapsed star will see something different depending on the speed of approach."

It is not the debunking of my argument. It is just the text-book information. Please reread my comment. The proper time is finite for reaching the event horizon, but the time on Earth would be infinite at this point. Latter is physically impossible. Thus, the fall of test-particle will be interrupted.

Correctly stated, the time that an external observer would need to see an object cross the event horizon is infinite. Since infinite time isn't available, this never happens, which is why it is called an event horizon.

From the POV of the particle, it passes through the event horizon in a finite and very short period of time. Your "fall of test-particle" takes mere seconds. That you fail to observe the event is immaterial.

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11-08-2016, 08:57 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 08:41 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  Correctly stated, the time that an external observer would need to see an object cross the event horizon is infinite. Since infinite time isn't available, this never happens, which is why it is called an event horizon.

From the POV of the particle, it passes through the event horizon in a finite and very short period of time. Your "fall of test-particle" takes mere seconds. That you fail to observe the event is immaterial.
Sadly, no perfect atheists here. The perfect atheist never uses the following evil tactic: to copy and paste a true information from a text-book, and then to add unsupported statement: "that's why you are wrong."
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11-08-2016, 09:09 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 11:29 AM)theBorg Wrote:  
(11-08-2016 11:26 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Why would you want to represent "the infinite amount of 'Subdivision' within whole numbers" using your god?
who else has enough printing paper to write all infinite list of numbers?

Who needs paper ? You live in the 19th Century ?

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11-08-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 08:32 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  
(11-08-2016 08:24 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The very first life in history is labeled by three letters G94, o7 and, finally, d9. How is this not true? P.S. please remove the numbers and connect the three letters together.

D-O-G?

Not my fault you failed to specify the order.

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11-08-2016, 09:26 PM
RE: The potential infinity is not the actual one
(11-08-2016 09:10 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  GOG
You can label it "The Flying Spaghetti Monster", if you afraid to call the name "True God".
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