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28-03-2014, 06:28 PM
The procrastinating death cult
I don't usually quote myself, but this seemed apt, and I didn't want to derail the other thread:

(28-03-2014 11:09 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(28-03-2014 10:35 AM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  Just as soon as I saw your heading, I thought, “…as in the days of Noah.” Could it be?!? I’m so ready to go HOME!

Do they realize there are quicker, more reliable ways for them to "go home"?

I hear this from time to time, particularly on Facebook on my fundy friend's page. There's always this sentiment that they want to go home. They can't wait to see their savior. They can't wait to bask in God's glory. Sometimes, they can't wait for the rapture and God's judgment (extra creepy).

Still, the message is always the same: they want to die, but they don't want to cheat and bring it on themselves. They can't commit suicide, because that's a sin, or something. They still do things like buckle their seat belts and go to doctors (except for the craziest among them). But they want to die, and they won't be truly happy until they do.

Now, I get that they believe they have an immortal soul, so they're not really "dying", but ironically gaining immortality, but damn, if hearing them repeat this isn't creepy as hell.


Side note:
I've recently started wondering: the whole "suicide is a sin" thing isn't strictly Biblical, is it? As far as I can tell, this got worked in to prevent Christianity from becoming a suicide cult. The Jews didn't believe in an awesome afterlife, so they had no reason to speed up the process. Also, the Jews believed that their bodies were going to be resurrected as-is (gross), so they probably didn't want to inflict injuries on themselves. I'm not sure what the Christian stance is on the matter.
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28-03-2014, 06:38 PM
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By and large, the usual Christian stance on the matter can be summed up like this:

Suicide is a sin for a couple reasons:
1. Murder
2. "Playing God" by determining your own time to go
3. Interference in God's plan

It is generally understood that we will rise again, though the specifics are contested. Some say it is a spiritual resurrection for everyone. Others say that it will be a literal physical resurrection. Almost all Christians contend that Christians will eventually be given brand new flawless immortal bodies made of some substance different from what we have right now, and many even say "with extra keen senses" and abilities and stuff. Interestingly, not so many think about the same being true for Non-Christians; it's not a pleasant thought that those burning in Hell would be doing so with new bodies that have extra-keen senses. Yay for feeling more AND more clearly hearing myself sizzle....
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28-03-2014, 07:14 PM
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The christians are obviously secretly hoping for Dexter to move into their neighborhood. They would and rightfully so should get in line for the slaughter so these lambs of god can be served up for cannibal stew.

Cannibals are on the endangered list and we must do what we can to preserve them.

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28-03-2014, 07:38 PM (This post was last modified: 29-03-2014 12:05 AM by Mark Fulton.)
RE: The procrastinating death cult
(28-03-2014 06:28 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  I don't usually quote myself, but this seemed apt, and I didn't want to derail the other thread:

(28-03-2014 11:09 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Do they realize there are quicker, more reliable ways for them to "go home"?

I hear this from time to time, particularly on Facebook on my fundy friend's page. There's always this sentiment that they want to go home. They can't wait to see their savior. They can't wait to bask in God's glory. Sometimes, they can't wait for the rapture and God's judgment (extra creepy).

Still, the message is always the same: they want to die, but they don't want to cheat and bring it on themselves. They can't commit suicide, because that's a sin, or something. They still do things like buckle their seat belts and go to doctors (except for the craziest among them). But they want to die, and they won't be truly happy until they do.

Now, I get that they believe they have an immortal soul, so they're not really "dying", but ironically gaining immortality, but damn, if hearing them repeat this isn't creepy as hell.


Side note:
I've recently started wondering: the whole "suicide is a sin" thing isn't strictly Biblical, is it? As far as I can tell, this got worked in to prevent Christianity from becoming a suicide cult. The Jews didn't believe in an awesome afterlife, so they had no reason to speed up the process. Also, the Jews believed that their bodies were going to be resurrected as-is (gross), so they probably didn't want to inflict injuries on themselves. I'm not sure what the Christian stance is on the matter.

Yes. This whole attitude degrades the one and only life we ever have – our earthly existence.

And a worrying thing about this is that some Christians in power are looking forward to the end of the world and have their fingers on nuclear buttons.
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28-03-2014, 09:21 PM
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If heaven was such a great thing, suicide would be a sacrament.

We have enough youth. How about looking for the Fountain of Smart?
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28-03-2014, 09:33 PM
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(28-03-2014 07:38 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Yes. This whole attitude degrades the one and only life we ever have – our earthly existence.

And other worrying thing about this is that some Christians in power are looking forward to the end of the world and have their fingers on nuclear buttons.

THIS and I strongly feel that one of the problems with regarding planet Earth as a way station is that those people have no reason to take care of her. Angry

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28-03-2014, 10:27 PM
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I think there is a malevolent streak in it all... While they can't wait to "go home" they also can't wait to see atheists, gays, and "sinners" in general burned and destroyed.

Okay, so you believe in God... No need to be a cunt about it.

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28-03-2014, 10:30 PM
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In theory, they're actually not supposed to be acting like that, because they're not supposed to be taking joy in the damnation of ANYONE.

They often forget that part though.
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28-03-2014, 11:16 PM
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They have an apocalyptic view and claim to want to leave this evil world where Satan has dominion and enter the heavenly realm where God rules. Simple question, why exactly did God surrender power over this realm to satan and his minions? Answer, mystery.

Of course as you point out, life in America is too easy for them to really believe this, and they aren't exactly hastening the process.
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29-03-2014, 12:37 AM
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(28-03-2014 06:28 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  I don't usually quote myself, but this seemed apt, and I didn't want to derail the other thread:

(28-03-2014 11:09 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Do they realize there are quicker, more reliable ways for them to "go home"?

I hear this from time to time, particularly on Facebook on my fundy friend's page. There's always this sentiment that they want to go home. They can't wait to see their savior. They can't wait to bask in God's glory. Sometimes, they can't wait for the rapture and God's judgment (extra creepy).

Still, the message is always the same: they want to die, but they don't want to cheat and bring it on themselves. They can't commit suicide, because that's a sin, or something. They still do things like buckle their seat belts and go to doctors (except for the craziest among them). But they want to die, and they won't be truly happy until they do.

Now, I get that they believe they have an immortal soul, so they're not really "dying", but ironically gaining immortality, but damn, if hearing them repeat this isn't creepy as hell.


Side note:
I've recently started wondering: the whole "suicide is a sin" thing isn't strictly Biblical, is it? As far as I can tell, this got worked in to prevent Christianity from becoming a suicide cult. The Jews didn't believe in an awesome afterlife, so they had no reason to speed up the process. Also, the Jews believed that their bodies were going to be resurrected as-is (gross), so they probably didn't want to inflict injuries on themselves. I'm not sure what the Christian stance is on the matter.
Like the rest of us, Christians are at the mercy of the inherited imperative to survive; it takes a remarkable combination of psychological malfunctions to bypass it. I am convinced that even the most passionate Christian still struggles with doubt about his (religious) faith.
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