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25-01-2014, 08:42 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 08:23 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 08:01 PM)Chas Wrote:  Oh, really?

1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6: And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8: And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9: And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10: And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11: And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12: And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13: And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14: And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16: And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17: And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18: And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19: And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20: And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21: And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22: And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23: And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24: And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30: And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
OK. I read that God created heaven and earth and then all kind of things in heaven and earth. But where does it say that He created everything?
Did He say that He created material from which He organized all those things?
Did He say how big heaven is? Bible mentions three heavens? So, how big is one heaven ACCORDING to the Bible? Is it absolutely all infinite space ACCORDING to the Bible?

Three heavens? No, I think not:
1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
That's the heaven; only one.

And the earth, and light, and the firmament, the earth and everything on it.

So, you go right ahead and play games with that. You have quite an imagination.

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25-01-2014, 08:48 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 08:42 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 08:23 PM)Alla Wrote:  OK. I read that God created heaven and earth and then all kind of things in heaven and earth. But where does it say that He created everything?
Did He say that He created material from which He organized all those things?
Did He say how big heaven is? Bible mentions three heavens? So, how big is one heaven ACCORDING to the Bible? Is it absolutely all infinite space ACCORDING to the Bible?

Three heavens? No, I think not:
1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
That's the heaven; only one.

And the earth, and light, and the firmament, the earth and everything on it.

So, you go right ahead and play games with that. You have quite an imagination.
Paul(another Prophet of the same God) mentioned third heaven. But still even there is only one heaven how big is it according to the Bible? and did God say that He created material from which He was creating? Did God say that heaven that He created had no limits?

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25-01-2014, 09:00 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 08:48 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 08:42 PM)Chas Wrote:  Three heavens? No, I think not:
1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
That's the heaven; only one.

And the earth, and light, and the firmament, the earth and everything on it.

So, you go right ahead and play games with that. You have quite an imagination.
Paul(another Prophet of the same God) mentioned third heaven. But still even there is only one heaven how big is it according to the Bible? and did God say that He created material from which He was creating? Did God say that heaven that He created had no limits?

Are you getting your mythology from somewhere other than the Bible?

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25-01-2014, 09:06 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 09:00 PM)Chas Wrote:  Are you getting your mythology from somewhere other than the Bible?
You misunderstand, Chas. Paul's writings were obviously mistranslated; Alla was able to figure out what he actually meant to say using her Holy Ghost Translator™. Drinking Beverage

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25-01-2014, 09:08 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 09:06 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 09:00 PM)Chas Wrote:  Are you getting your mythology from somewhere other than the Bible?
You misunderstand, Chas. Paul's writings were obviously mistranslated; Alla was able to figure out what he actually meant so say using her Holy Ghost Translator. Drinking Beverage

What is a "Holy Ghost Translator", and where can I download one? Consider

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25-01-2014, 09:09 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 09:08 PM)Im_Ryan Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 09:06 PM)Vosur Wrote:  You misunderstand, Chas. Paul's writings were obviously mistranslated; Alla was able to figure out what he actually meant so say using her Holy Ghost Translator. Drinking Beverage

What is a "Holy Ghost Translator", and where can I download one? Consider

I believe it's also known as a Secret Decoder Ring. Yes

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25-01-2014, 09:10 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 09:00 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 08:48 PM)Alla Wrote:  Paul(another Prophet of the same God) mentioned third heaven. But still even there is only one heaven how big is it according to the Bible? and did God say that He created material from which He was creating? Did God say that heaven that He created had no limits?

Are you getting your mythology from somewhere other than the Bible?

Yes. She's a Mormon. Mormon's believe there are three levels of heaven.

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25-01-2014, 09:11 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 09:09 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 09:08 PM)Im_Ryan Wrote:  What is a "Holy Ghost Translator", and where can I download one? Consider

I believe it's also known as a Secret Decoder Ring. Yes

Hmm I see. Will my "Little Orphan Annie Decoder Ring" be a good substitute? As I'm a cheap ass...

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25-01-2014, 09:16 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 09:10 PM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 09:00 PM)Chas Wrote:  Are you getting your mythology from somewhere other than the Bible?

Yes. She's a Mormon. Mormon's believe there are three levels of heaven.

Because one heaven wasn't good enough for Joseph Smith!

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25-01-2014, 09:35 PM
RE: The rest of the universe
(25-01-2014 09:16 PM)Crulax Wrote:  
(25-01-2014 09:10 PM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  Yes. She's a Mormon. Mormon's believe there are three levels of heaven.

Because one heaven wasn't good enough for Joseph Smith!

Mormons believe in the top level is basically for the best most holy and righteous people. True believers and followers of Christ, and good practicing Mormons.

Second level is for the good, but who failed to live up to the standards of "God's laws", and expectations. But because they are still good people they just don't go to the HEAVEN heaven.

The bottom level is for evil people and those who reject and blaspheme against "God". So they don't really have a Hell. The lowest tier heaven is kind of their equivalent.

So it's kind of like like moving to a new town and either moving into the mansion on the beach with no cares or worries in the world. Or a comfortable yet small home in an average to midland suburb with some decent neighbors, and some really shitty annoying one and where you still have to struggle to get by in life. Or the last home, crashing on the couch of some shitty asshole you hate, while living in a crime infested ghetto.

Interesting fact! Adolf Hitler will not be in the lowest level of heaven with the rest of us, because the Mormon's posthumously baptized him after his death. He should get to at least go to the middle heaven, with Anne Frank, who they also posthumously baptized. So Hitler and Anne Frank in middle heaven together, thanks to the Mormons.

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