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07-04-2014, 12:27 PM
The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
You will never know what it is. My mom actually uses evolution in order to justify why we shouldn't have gay people. Strange isn't it?Consider
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07-04-2014, 12:33 PM
RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
How, exactly?

I believe Dawkins has said something about evolution and homosexuality but I can't really remember now.

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07-04-2014, 12:35 PM
RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
(07-04-2014 12:33 PM)undergroundp Wrote:  How, exactly?

I believe Dawkins has said something about evolution and homosexuality but I can't really remember now.

It goes along the lines, humans need to reproduce to survive, homosexuals don't allow reproduction, thus hindering the species.

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07-04-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
If the entire species would suddenly become homosexual we would indeed die out. The change of that actually happening is actually next to none.

I like the "marriage has alway been a man and a woman" argument. If you actually look into the history of homosexuality, same sex bonding amoung humans has always been around and has been recognized as a legimit union in most cultures at some point in time. It was really common in Roman and Acient Greek times.
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07-04-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
(07-04-2014 12:35 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  
(07-04-2014 12:33 PM)undergroundp Wrote:  How, exactly?

I believe Dawkins has said something about evolution and homosexuality but I can't really remember now.

It goes along the lines, humans need to reproduce to survive, homosexuals don't allow reproduction, thus hindering the species.

Ask her if she is familiar with the concept of kin selection.
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07-04-2014, 12:51 PM
RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
(07-04-2014 12:35 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  
(07-04-2014 12:33 PM)undergroundp Wrote:  How, exactly?

I believe Dawkins has said something about evolution and homosexuality but I can't really remember now.

It goes along the lines, humans need to reproduce to survive, homosexuals don't allow reproduction, thus hindering the species.

I wish i could remember that paper I read that said there may be an epigentic link between female fertility and homosexuality.

It boiled down to that the sequence that coded for increased fertility in females, would be a possible cause of male homosexuality.

So there would be an evolutionary reason as to why it hasn't been selected out of our species

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07-04-2014, 12:56 PM
RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
(07-04-2014 12:51 PM)Blackhand293 Wrote:  
(07-04-2014 12:35 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  It goes along the lines, humans need to reproduce to survive, homosexuals don't allow reproduction, thus hindering the species.

I wish i could remember that paper I read that said there may be an epigentic link between female fertility and homosexuality.

It boiled down to that the sequence that coded for increased fertility in females, would be a possible cause of male homosexuality.

So there would be an evolutionary reason as to why it hasn't been selected out of our species

http://bigthink.com/think-tank/the-gay-g...hypothesis

here is a start.

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07-04-2014, 12:58 PM
RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
(07-04-2014 12:45 PM)wazzel Wrote:  If the entire species would suddenly become homosexual we would indeed die out. The change of that actually happening is actually next to none.

I like the "marriage has alway been a man and a woman" argument. If you actually look into the history of homosexuality, same sex bonding amoung humans has always been around and has been recognized as a legimit union in most cultures at some point in time. It was really common in Roman and Acient Greek times.

Exactly what I was about to say.

In Ancient Greece, sex between men seemed to be mostly a means of strengthening friendships. Which would go well with the idea that humans evolved to feel love or empathy, helping one another to survive.

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07-04-2014, 01:16 PM
Rainbow RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
So... She thinks that homosexuality is unnatural, and therefore a mere choice? How does she explain that homosexuality has been observed in nearly 1200 different species? There aren't gay penguins because they are rebelling against societal norms. Gay pandas aren't "fabulous" because it's somehow trendy.

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07-04-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: The strangest argument against homosexuality I have ever heard.
(07-04-2014 01:16 PM)Jeffasaurus Wrote:  So... She thinks that homosexuality is unnatural, and therefore a mere choice? How does she explain that homosexuality has been observed in nearly 1200 different species? There aren't gay penguins because they are rebelling against societal norms. Gay pandas aren't "fabulous" because it's somehow trendy.

I used that argument. She said humans a different from those animals.

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