The stupidest arguments against the most potent atheist argument?
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18-08-2017, 04:00 AM
RE: The stupidest arguments against the most potent atheist argument?
(13-08-2017 10:22 AM)Summer Wrote:  The most potent argument against them which usually deters them for miles is the argument that they don't have evidence for anything they claim. But there are an increasing number of numnuts who either find offense of that statement or even show that they have some answer to it that should either substitute for evidence or evidence it itself.

The most common ones are like when they say "Not everything needs evidence" or "All religion teaches good". What are some ways to respond to them? and also what are some other ways stupid people try to answer the above unbeliever argument of lack of evidence.

There are two responses that occur to me regarding things that do not need evidence. First, if the claim is so trivial that nobody cares whether it is true or not, e.g., 'Lucius Cornelius Scipio Asiaticus was left-handed' then evidence does not really matter either way. Second, non-trivial claims without evidence are indistinguishable from delusions. Applying Occam's razor makes delusion the more likely position.

The good things taught by religions are a subset of the total; it is not difficult to find examples of truly dreadful actions performed in the name of, or explicitly mandated by, religious teaching. Atheists can do the same things, both for good and ill, but we can't avoid taking responsibility on ourselves.

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06-08-2018, 02:18 PM
RE: The stupidest arguments against the most potent atheist argument?
Try becoming aware of the spirits and the teachings you are dealing with.
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06-08-2018, 02:28 PM
RE: The stupidest arguments against the most potent atheist argument?
Look who's talking.
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Many here actually know more about the teachings than you ever will.
Your posts indicate you are more familiar with "spirits" than you ought to be.

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07-08-2018, 11:17 AM
RE: The stupidest arguments against the most potent atheist argument?
(06-08-2018 02:18 PM)Submitten Wrote:  Try becoming aware of the spirits and the teachings you are dealing with.

The concept of the existence of a "soul", or a person's "spirit" that's separate from their body, and which survives the death of the body and lives on for eternity, while accepted as axiomatic by Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, is not in the Hebrew Bible.

Thus, it's not a basic Jewish belief. The idea of a soul was taken from ancient pagan cultures. The philosopher Plato was probably the person who was most influential in moulding this Christian, Jewish, and Islamic belief.

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07-08-2018, 11:27 AM
RE: The stupidest arguments against the most potent atheist argument?
The one I run into the most are when they attempt to cite as evidence things which are not objective, such as feelings.

"When my son was born I just knew there was a higher plan and purpose to life. God meant for me to be his father, I could feel the hand of god in this." They like to stick you with stuff like this because how can you argue against what they feel? You can't. But you can point out that those feelings and emotions could exist with or without the intervention of a deity. The existence of a god is not the ONLY possible cause for feelings of closeness with your child or of having a purpose in life.
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