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22-04-2013, 07:05 PM
RE: The suns influence on radioactive decay
Hey, Wolf.

Daaaaaaaamn, son. Way to bring the knowledge Cool

Hey, Phaedrus.

Quote:...without having to build massive underground neutrino detectors.

Well what the fuck else is Canada supposed to do with our God damn nickel mines!

Also, if we figure out the Theory of Everything, does that mean we'll finally be able to figure out the elusive healthy doughnut? Cuz there's a Tim Horton's just down the street that's slowly killing me Cool

Hey, Aden.

Quote:"So, what we're suggesting is that something that can't interact with anything is changing something that can't be changed."

Love, love, love it.

OK. I'm not going to pretend that my physics kung fu is strong enough to weigh in with any kind of authority on this one, but riddle me this.

Is a neutrino matter?

Cuz, it's, like, a massless particle, n'est ce pas?

Anyhoo, I love it when the impossible suddenly becomes possible.

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23-04-2013, 08:41 AM
RE: The suns influence on radioactive decay
(22-04-2013 07:05 PM)Ghost Wrote:  
Quote:There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
-William Shakespeare - Hamlet

Peace and Love and Empathy,

Matt

Yabut, WTF did Horatio know about anything important.

Hamlet... master of litotes.

Welcome Wolfhart, I'm guessing you found us via google?

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23-04-2013, 02:19 PM
RE: The suns influence on radioactive decay
(22-04-2013 01:55 PM)Wolfhart Willimczik Wrote:  
(08-02-2013 01:22 AM)Adenosis Wrote:  http://phys.org/news202456660.html

Jenkins and Fischbach
suggest that the changes in the decay rates are due to interactions with
solar neutrinos, nearly weightless particles created by nuclear
reactions within the sun's core that travel almost at the speed of
light.

It is estimated that about 60 billion solar neutrinos pass through a
person's fingernail every second, but they are so weakly reactive that
they pass right through the body without disturbing or changing
anything, Jenkins said.

"We haven't known the solar neutrino to interact significantly with
anything, but it fits with the evidence we've gathered as the likely
source of these fluctuations," he said. "So, what we're suggesting is
that something that can't interact with anything is changing something
that can't be changed."


What do you guys think of this? They mentioned the change in decay rate was less than 1% different, but still, It's interesting that the sun might have an effect on decay rates. Makes me really curious as to how that works.

EDIT: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...0510001234

Hi there,

I am a German Physicist and waited over 40 years of such measurements, because they are an indication that my Hypotheses is right.
Radioactive decay needs an information from the outside…
The new law:
A physical system in a metastable state remains in it as long as not a particular value of an arbitrary parameter is determined from outside.
http://science-technology-inventions.weebly.com/
see also attachment
Greetings from Florida
Wolfhart Willimczik

there are more measurements…

[1] E. Fischbach, K.J. Chen, R.E. Gold, J.O. Goldsten, D.J. Lawrence, R.J. McNutt, E.A. Rhodes, J.H. Jenkins, J. Longuski, Astrophys. Spa. Sci. 337 (2012) 39.
[2] J.H. Jenkins, E. Fischbach, Astropart. Phys. 31 (2009) 407.
[3] J.H. Jenkins, E. Fischbach, J. Buncher, J. Gruenwald, D.E. Krause, J.J. Mattes,
Astropart. Phys. 32 (2009) 42.
[4] E. Fischbach, J. Buncher, J. Gruenwald, D. Javorsek II, J.H. Jenkins, R.H. Lee, D.E.
Krause, J.J. Mattes, J. Newport, Spa. Sci. Rev. 145 (2009) 285.
[5] D.E. Alburger, G. Harbottle, E.F. Norton, Earth Planet. Sci. Lett. 78 (1986) 168.
[6] J. Siegert, H. Schrader, U. Schötzig, Appl. Radiat. Isot. 49 (1998) 1397.
[7] E.D. Falkenberg, Aperion 8 (2001) 32.
[8] A.G. Parkhomov, Int. J. Pure Appl. Phys. 1 (2005) 119. ,


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[9] Y.A. Baurov et al., Mod. Phys. Lett. A 16 (2001) 2089;
Y.A. Baurov et al., Phys. At. Nucl. 70 (2007) 1825. [10] K.J. Ellis, Phys. Med. Biol. 35 (1990) 1079.
[11] S.E. Shnoll et al., Phys. Usp. 41 (1998) 1025;
S.E. Shnoll et al., Phys. Usp. 43 (2000) 205.
[12] V. Lobashev et al., Phys. Lett. B 460 (1999) 227.
[13] P.A. Sturrock, E. Fischbach, J.H. Jenkins, Solar Phys. 272 (2011) 1.
[14] E. Fischbach, J.H. Jenkins, J.B. Buncher, J.T. Gruenwald, P.A. Sturrock, D. Javorsek
II, in: V. Alan Kostelecky ́ (Ed.), Proceedings of the Fifth Meeting on CPT and
Lorentz Symmetry, World Scientific, Singapore, 2011.
[15] E. Norman, E. Browne, H. Shugart, T. Joshi, R. Firestone, Astropart. Phys. 31
(2009) 31.
[16] P.S. Cooper, Astropart. Phys. 31 (2009) 267.
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dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.apradiso.2012.02.021.
[18] R.J. de Meijer, M. Blaaw, F.D. Smit, Appl. Radiat. Isot. 69 (2011) 320.


there is more to find:

Getting out of the solar core, neutrinos are speed demons, photons are slugs. h/t to Leif Svalgaard for the graphical annotation inspiration. Solar core image from NASA.
In August, WUWT carried a story that was rather shocking: some physicists published claims they have detected a variation in earthly radioactive decay rates, big news by itself, but the shocker is they attributed it to solar neutrinos.


Research papers: PERIODIC VARIATIONS: SCALE OF DAYS OR YEARS:
· Evidence for Solar Influences on Nuclear Decay Rates by Ephraim Fischbach et al. [2010/07] Presents evidence of a fluctuation tied to the Rieger periodicity.
· Half-life of 32Si by D. E. Alburger et al. [Earth Planet. Sci. Lett. 78, 168 (1986)] Observed an unexplained annual variation in the ratio of silicon-32 to chlorine-36.
· Evidence for Correlations Between Nuclear Decay Rates and Earth-Sun Distance by Jere H. Jenkins et al. [Astroparticle Physics 32, 42 (2009)]
· Searching for modifications to the exponential radioactive decay law with the Cassini spacecraft by Peter S. Cooper [Astroparticle Physics 31, 267 (2009)] ... and finding none.
· Evidence against correlations between nuclear decay rates and Earth-Sun distance by Eric B. Norman et al. [Astroparticle Physics 31, 135 (2009)]
Analysis of environmental influences in nuclear half-life measurements exhibiting time-dependent decay rates by Jere H. Jenkins et al. [Nucl. Inst.

Interesting paper. It would be nice to have it confirmed. I don't know a whole lot about radioactive decay, but it seems this could be a step towards an answer to the question of why the decay occurs at that particular time. Or why a photon is emitted from a electron at a particular time. Low energy particle physics research into metaphysical states, has a ring to it Tongue goodluck.

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24-04-2013, 08:28 AM
RE: The suns influence on radioactive decay
(23-04-2013 08:41 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 07:05 PM)Ghost Wrote:  Peace and Love and Empathy,

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Welcome Wolfhart, I'm guessing you found us via google?

hello,
since nobody found me I had to find you.
I searched Google who is discussing my theme…
Where are you located?
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24-04-2013, 09:30 AM
RE: The suns influence on radioactive decay
(23-04-2013 02:19 PM)Adenosis Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 01:55 PM)Wolfhart Willimczik Wrote:  Hi there,

I am a German Physicist and waited over 40 years of such measurements, because they are an indication that my Hypotheses is right.
Radioactive decay needs an information from the outside…
The new law:
A physical system in a metastable state remains in it as long as not a particular value of an arbitrary parameter is determined from outside.
http://science-technology-inventions.weebly.com/
see also attachment
Greetings from Florida
Wolfhart Willimczik

Interesting paper. It would be nice to have it confirmed. I don't know a whole lot about radioactive decay, but it seems this could be a step towards an answer to the question of why the decay occurs at that particular time. Or why a photon is emitted from a electron at a particular time. Low energy particle physics research into metaphysical states, has a ring to it Tongue goodluck.

Hello,
The past of science shows it may take decades to confirm a new theory.
I – and another physicist – propose to send a space probe far away from the earth and measure the radioactive decay in dependency of the distance to the sun r.
Since the effect must follow 1/rr there should be a measurable effect far away.
Einstein would be happy to see this. I think nobody thought of it at establishing the QM 100 years ago; instead of saying “we don’t know yet” introducing the term “probability” as other misconceptions today. We get simply used to them. Living such a long time with a misconception it will be viciously defended as the eggs by a crocodile.
Greetings from Florida
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