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29-08-2012, 01:33 PM (This post was last modified: 29-08-2012 02:29 PM by cufflink.)
RE: The time to ban is now
This is the whole freedom-of-speech issue in microcosm. It's akin to whether the WBC should be allowed to picket funerals or a neo-Nazi group to march through a neighborhood of Holocaust survivors.

Stark has articulated the TTA position clearly: Here, freedom of expression trumps virtually everything else. The only exceptions are porn, nudity, spamming, and threats of violence. Beyond that, a poster is free to be as vile, disruptive, abusive, and stupid as s/he wants to be.

Personally I lean towards Dom's position. There are always limits to freedom of expression; the question is where to draw the line. I would draw the line so as to be able to get rid of people who are clearly abusing others. I'll let everyone into my house, but if someone starts trashing the place, I have no problem grabbing them by the shoulders and throwing them out on their ass.

That said, I respect Stark's idealism in wanting to keep TTA a paragon of free expression.

What, then, can we do when we encounter a Bishadi? "Community policing" sounds good, but thinking about it, I'm not sure I know what that means. Policing implies not only vigilance but also the ability to arrest, doesn't it? What's the analogous ability here?

I guess what I'm asking is, given that vile and abusive people won't be banned solely for that kind of behavior, what can we do as a community to discourage it? Simply ignore the behavior, hoping they'll go away on their own when no one responds to them? Pile up on them, being just as abusive back? Bombard them with requests that they either change their ways or leave voluntarily? Be as supportive as possible to the target of the abuse? I could use some clarification here.

ETA: When I wrote this I hadn't read Lucradis's post, where he answered some of the questions I asked above:

Quote:If he's a dick, reciprocate. Or ignore. Defend people as a community. You have a voice, use it properly. Removing everyone someone doesn't desire is an effective way to alienate a large portion of the population.

Any other thoughts on community policing?

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The time to ban is now - ghostexorcist - 29-08-2012, 05:38 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - bemore - 29-08-2012, 05:52 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Vosur - 29-08-2012, 06:32 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Filox - 29-08-2012, 06:36 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Seasbury - 29-08-2012, 07:53 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 08:00 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Chas - 29-08-2012, 08:41 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - earmuffs - 29-08-2012, 08:49 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 08:51 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - earmuffs - 29-08-2012, 08:58 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Chas - 29-08-2012, 08:56 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Dom - 29-08-2012, 09:39 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - earmuffs - 29-08-2012, 09:43 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Erxomai - 29-08-2012, 09:51 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - ghostexorcist - 29-08-2012, 09:53 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Erxomai - 29-08-2012, 10:02 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - ghostexorcist - 29-08-2012, 10:05 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Erxomai - 29-08-2012, 10:13 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - legendoflink - 29-08-2012, 10:10 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 10:22 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Chas - 29-08-2012, 10:31 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Vosur - 29-08-2012, 10:35 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Dom - 29-08-2012, 10:43 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Erxomai - 29-08-2012, 10:46 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Chas - 29-08-2012, 10:46 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Dom - 29-08-2012, 10:25 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Erxomai - 29-08-2012, 10:44 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 10:39 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Chas - 29-08-2012, 10:42 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 10:48 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Dom - 29-08-2012, 11:07 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - earmuffs - 29-08-2012, 10:54 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 11:00 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Vosur - 29-08-2012, 11:04 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 11:12 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - earmuffs - 29-08-2012, 11:03 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - LadyJane - 29-08-2012, 11:06 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Dom - 29-08-2012, 11:23 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - legendoflink - 29-08-2012, 11:25 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Vosur - 29-08-2012, 11:30 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 11:31 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - lucradis - 29-08-2012, 11:41 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Erxomai - 29-08-2012, 12:56 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - fstratzero - 29-08-2012, 11:47 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - Smooshmonster - 29-08-2012, 01:13 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - cufflink - 29-08-2012 01:33 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - Dom - 29-08-2012, 02:10 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - Logica Humano - 29-08-2012, 02:16 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - Filox - 30-08-2012, 12:00 AM
RE: The time to ban is now - houseofcantor - 29-08-2012, 02:33 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 02:35 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - Dom - 29-08-2012, 02:40 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 02:34 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - germanyt - 29-08-2012, 03:23 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - GirlyMan - 29-08-2012, 06:22 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - germanyt - 29-08-2012, 07:32 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - itsacow - 29-08-2012, 09:40 PM
RE: The time to ban is now - GirlyMan - 29-08-2012, 11:43 PM
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