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28-04-2017, 07:41 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 06:00 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(27-04-2017 09:32 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  To you, not to me. If you had any amount of belief then it would be valid.

So if I had belief in Pink Unicorn God it would ?

YOU asked the question. What makes sense to YOU is irrelevant.

We all know YOU believe in an evil (non-perfect) god, who got pissed and demanded his own son die, so he could feel better, and who told the Israelites to kill disobedient children and wipe out innocent infants.
You have no clue about what I actually know. Stop assuming things and being a dick just for kicks. If you want to go around making blanket statements about people and things you really no nothing about then that's fine, just don't pretend to want intellectual conversation.

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28-04-2017, 07:42 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 06:03 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(28-04-2017 05:51 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Coffee?

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Ah, yes, that would explain the poor grammar and spelling. Drinking Beverage
No, that's pretty much a constant, or rather; two.



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28-04-2017, 07:42 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 06:16 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(28-04-2017 06:03 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  Ah, yes, that would explain the poor grammar and spelling. Drinking Beverage

That's a constant in this case.
It's the meds.
No meds.

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28-04-2017, 07:43 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 07:42 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(28-04-2017 06:16 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  That's a constant in this case.
It's the meds.
No meds.

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There should be.

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28-04-2017, 07:45 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 06:17 AM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  
(28-04-2017 05:46 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Ok...you pose that the Bible can lead one to believe that GOD isn't perfect. I am willing to use that book to refute your claim, but need references to attempt such.



And no, I didn't move the goal posts.

Please attempt to excuse my general butchering of the English language. Thank you for bringing that illegible crap to light for me.



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> Sorry, but that sentence makes no sense. And, yes, you obviously did move the goalposts for the reason I correctly stated.



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28-04-2017, 07:46 AM (This post was last modified: 28-04-2017 08:03 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 07:41 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(28-04-2017 06:00 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  So if I had belief in Pink Unicorn God it would ?

YOU asked the question. What makes sense to YOU is irrelevant.

We all know YOU believe in an evil (non-perfect) god, who got pissed and demanded his own son die, so he could feel better, and who told the Israelites to kill disobedient children and wipe out innocent infants.
You have no clue about what I actually know. Stop assuming things and being a dick just for kicks. If you want to go around making blanket statements about people and things you really no nothing about then that's fine, just don't pretend to want intellectual conversation.

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You CLAIM to follow a certain religion. We KNOW what the Bible says about your fool evil deity. If you can't handle what YOUR Bible obviously says about your (ancient Bronze Age) god, then go away and stop talking about it. If you can't handle the truth, stop coming here. No one is making you post your crap here. If you need the "everything is all nice and OK" site, then go to a toddler site. You have nothing to offer TTA. You never have.

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28-04-2017, 07:55 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 06:25 AM)julep Wrote:  
(28-04-2017 05:50 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Before I hurt somebody. That was uncalled for.

Though I had been known for threats when I first came here, I never acted them out. This is the internet you know. I don't appreciate you painting me in a violent light.



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"You have detailed your violent history yourself, repeatedly. You've also described a history of hallucinations and have stated that you're not receiving counseling or medication. The painter is you."

Why would I need meds or counseling because I had induced hallucinations before, in the distance past? Just because I had thoughts of violence in the past, to the point that they nearly consumed me; in reality, I never acted them out, regardless of level of justification. So again, why the call for meds and counseling? As if someone else knows what I have gone through more than me. Is that your delusion? Do you escape those internal pains or rather ignore them with idle meandering espoused by a "doctor"? Do the meds make you oblivious to your own failure and misdirection or do they make you just think all is irrelevant? Is that the status quo? How very unindependant if so.

"You're asking us to accept that what you report about your experiences is true. So I accept, provisionally, that you had an experience you felt was transformational. What I don't accept is your interpretation of that experience as god-sent; it reads to me more as a psychotic break or fugue state. Given your history of disordered, volatile interactions here, and the personal events you've reported, especially those involving your child's mother, "get help before you hurt somebody" is a recommendation you should consider."

It really is a shame that you would attempt to act like I am dangerous.

What is more sad is that the go to fix for internal problems seems to be "medicate/ distract/ nullify those internal things that are indicators of need for change.



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28-04-2017, 08:01 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 07:23 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(28-04-2017 05:50 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Before I hurt somebody. That was uncalled for.

Though I had been known for threats when I first came here, I never acted them out. This is the internet you know.

Julep said it well already but my comment had nothing to do with the "threats" you made here. Given the posts you made describing your attempted assault and what, to me, sounds like some kind of psychotic episode I honestly believe that you have serious issues that need treatment (perhaps medication, perhaps not) and that you pose a potential danger to people around you. You should find a qualified therapist and get some help. You may think you are in control but that is not how you appear to others.

Quote:I don't appreciate you painting me in a violent light.

I'm only holding a mirror.
You can attempt to defame me all you want.

The reality is that I have never hurt anyone but in defence or retaliation, and that hasn't happened in over fifteen years. To put it into perspective; I've only had faith for 6 years.

So assume what you want. Things past are past, and thoughts were not actions, though even the thought are nowhere near what they once were.

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28-04-2017, 08:12 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 07:37 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I didn't make any claim. I've only asked that one support their claim that I might refute it.

You did make a claim:

(27-04-2017 07:00 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  None are perfect but GOD

(28-04-2017 07:37 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  We all know I cannot prove he existence of GOD for you or any else.

This is a weakness in your case not a flaw in our skepticism.

(28-04-2017 07:37 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  But if any still want to claim IT isn't perfect then support it with actual scriptural references since you(whoever) are supposedly basing your claims on the scholastic/ historic perspective/ interpretations of the Bible.

This is a reasonable request.

(28-04-2017 07:37 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  By the way; if man as a whole had rightly understood the inspired word of GOD then many historical things would have been different. By historical I mean within the last 1500 years.

That statement is another claim.

(28-04-2017 07:37 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Regardless, I would gladly discuss this supposed imperfection of GOD based on the partial perspective of man, with references, so I can at least see what you are deriving your argument from.

The "partial perspective of man" is the same perspective that you have used to judge god perfect.

(28-04-2017 07:55 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  What is more sad is that the go to fix for internal problems seems to be "medicate/ distract/ nullify those internal things that are indicators of need for change.

Do not denigrate modern medicine especially in regards to psychiatry and mental health. Medications and therapies have saved countless lives and made countless more worth living.

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28-04-2017, 08:24 AM
RE: The universe is intelligently designed
(28-04-2017 07:55 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  It really is a shame that you would attempt to act like I am dangerous.

Hold on.

(28-04-2017 08:01 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  You can attempt to defame me all you want.

The reality is that I have never hurt anyone but in defence or retaliation

Dude, these are your own words! It's not defamation.
Hurting someone in retaliation makes you dangerous! Self defense is justifiable. Retaliation is not.

If the fifteen year time span is accurate, then kudos to you.
However you cannot expect people to ignore the past. You've also posted things that have made others uncomfortable, and this is after you found god.

If you really have changed then you have to understand that it will take time for people to accept that change. You have to accept that your present will be judged, at least partially, on your past.

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