The weight of the Ten Commandments
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02-06-2014, 11:21 AM
RE: The weight of the Ten Commandments
(30-05-2014 10:53 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  Moses, if he did live, would have been from the 7th century BCE. The bible doesn't claim moses came down out of the mountain with the torah, only the commandments. I don't think the bible says where the other books came from.

Not to get too far off topic, but I know that most uneducated Christians/fundies believe that Moses wrote much of the Old Testament (or at least the Pentateuch?). Do we know why they believe that?
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02-06-2014, 12:55 PM
RE: The weight of the Ten Commandments
(02-06-2014 11:21 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(30-05-2014 10:53 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  Moses, if he did live, would have been from the 7th century BCE. The bible doesn't claim moses came down out of the mountain with the torah, only the commandments. I don't think the bible says where the other books came from.

Not to get too far off topic, but I know that most uneducated Christians/fundies believe that Moses wrote much of the Old Testament (or at least the Pentateuch?). Do we know why they believe that?

There is no reason to believe moses was a real person. The first book to surface of the old testament was deuteronomy, I think. A king in judah, Josiah, 'found it' in the 7th century BCE. Genesis is based on myths in Judah and Israel at around the same time (the myths may be much older, but the writing of the myths is 7th century BCE).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Deuteronomy

The other books of the bible where most likely written in what is called the "post exilic period", or the time when the state of Israel was wiped from the map by the babylonians, some time after 5th century BCE. It is believed that the jewish people, now in exile and with no nation state and no temple at the time, wrote down a lot of their prevailing myths and beliefs and filled in the gaps as a way to give themselves identity.

See "origins of exodus"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#...odus_story

more in the post exilic period.

http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/s...eriod.html
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02-06-2014, 01:04 PM
RE: The weight of the Ten Commandments
(02-06-2014 12:55 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  
(02-06-2014 11:21 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Not to get too far off topic, but I know that most uneducated Christians/fundies believe that Moses wrote much of the Old Testament (or at least the Pentateuch?). Do we know why they believe that?

There is no reason to believe moses was a real person. The first book to surface of the old testament was deuteronomy, I think. A king in judah, Josiah, 'found it' in the 7th century BCE. Genesis is based on myths in Judah and Israel at around the same time (the myths may be much older, but the writing of the myths is 7th century BCE).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Deuteronomy

The other books of the bible where most likely written in what is called the "post exilic period", or the time when the state of Israel was wiped from the map by the babylonians, some time after 5th century BCE. It is believed that the jewish people, now in exile and with no nation state and no temple at the time, wrote down a lot of their prevailing myths and beliefs and filled in the gaps as a way to give themselves identity.

See "origins of exodus"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#...odus_story

more in the post exilic period.

http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/s...eriod.html

Legitimate biblical researchers admit Moses is entirely mythical. Here is an excellent summary of the archeological conclusions.




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02-06-2014, 03:13 PM
The weight of the Ten Commandments
Just ran into JW claiming in another thread that Moses wrote Genesis. Perhaps he could shed some light on why the hell anyone would even consider that.

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