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15-02-2013, 05:38 PM
RE: The world without lies
(15-02-2013 01:32 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-02-2013 05:25 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  If there is nobody to tell the ignorant that first lie "You are nothing." and then, "Believe me, and you will be something. Follow me unquestioningly, and you will be important."
If we could avoid that first lie, most of the self-deception would become unnecessary.

What you call the first lie seems almost like a self-evident premise to me, Peterkin. Anything after that is the lie.

Girly, Peterkin had a point: it all starts by destroying children's confidence in their own minds. Telling them to "shut up, you are only a kid!".

I remember arguing with my father about Marx when I was 18 -- I told him that Marx made perfect sense in "Das Kapital" when he described Capitalism's self-destructive nature.

He said (and I still remember and resent it): "It is only your opinion".

To which I hotly retorted: "And that is only yours!"

This was the last time he ever slapped me.

Final argument.

Luckily my mother was taking me seriously and quickly built up my ego (still visible today)! Big Grin
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The world without lies - Zat - 12-02-2013, 05:06 AM
RE: The world without lies - bemore - 12-02-2013, 06:00 AM
RE: The world without lies - Peterkin - 12-02-2013, 08:50 AM
RE: The world without lies - Luminon - 12-02-2013, 09:43 AM
RE: The world without lies - Mr Woof - 12-02-2013, 01:22 PM
RE: The world without lies - kim - 12-02-2013, 03:21 PM
RE: The world without lies - Zat - 12-02-2013, 05:04 PM
RE: The world without lies - Hamata k - 12-02-2013, 05:10 PM
RE: The world without lies - Zat - 12-02-2013, 05:13 PM
RE: The world without lies - Hamata k - 13-02-2013, 03:10 AM
RE: The world without lies - Zat - 13-02-2013, 06:54 AM
RE: The world without lies - ClydeLee - 13-02-2013, 06:56 PM
RE: The world without lies - Zat - 14-02-2013, 06:49 AM
RE: The world without lies - GirlyMan - 19-02-2013, 08:07 PM
RE: The world without lies - Luminon - 23-02-2013, 06:07 AM
RE: The world without lies - GirlyMan - 24-02-2013, 03:24 AM
Re: RE: The world without lies - ClydeLee - 14-02-2013, 06:56 AM
RE: The world without lies - Zat - 14-02-2013, 07:04 AM
RE: The world without lies - GirlyMan - 14-02-2013, 04:24 PM
RE: The world without lies - Mr Woof - 14-02-2013, 05:05 PM
RE: The world without lies - GirlyMan - 15-02-2013, 01:32 AM
RE: The world without lies - Zat - 15-02-2013 05:38 PM
RE: The world without lies - GirlyMan - 16-02-2013, 12:46 AM
RE: The world without lies - Peterkin - 16-02-2013, 05:56 PM
RE: The world without lies - Mr Woof - 17-02-2013, 04:39 PM
RE: The world without lies - Zat - 14-02-2013, 05:06 PM
RE: The world without lies - Peterkin - 14-02-2013, 05:25 PM
RE: The world without lies - Peanut - 19-02-2013, 10:36 AM
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