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10-12-2012, 07:22 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 07:20 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 07:19 PM)enochian Wrote:  The point is not the skandha. In Madhyamaka, we use the analogy of the chariot.

The point is that you are just a bundle of parts.
Real parts, or non-existent parts? That is the question.
Reread post 1. We don't claim nonexistence.
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10-12-2012, 07:23 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 07:22 PM)enochian Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 07:20 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Real parts, or non-existent parts? That is the question.
Reread post 1. We don't claim nonexistence.
Oh I know, you don't claim non-existence, you also don't claim existence.

It was a joke.

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10-12-2012, 07:28 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
It is not asserted that a chariot is something other than its parts.
It is not something that is not other, nor does it possess them.
It does not exist in the parts, nor do the parts exist in it.
It is neither their mere collection nor the shape—thus is the analogy.
-Candrakirti

You are just a bundle of parts, like a chariot.
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10-12-2012, 07:38 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 07:28 PM)enochian Wrote:  It is not asserted that a chariot is something other than its parts.
It is not something that is not other, nor does it possess them.
It does not exist in the parts, nor do the parts exist in it.
It is neither their mere collection nor the shape—thus is the analogy.
-Candrakirti

You are just a bundle of parts, like a chariot.
No, we are an evolved system of parts. Big difference.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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10-12-2012, 07:42 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 07:38 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 07:28 PM)enochian Wrote:  It is not asserted that a chariot is something other than its parts.
It is not something that is not other, nor does it possess them.
It does not exist in the parts, nor do the parts exist in it.
It is neither their mere collection nor the shape—thus is the analogy.
-Candrakirti

You are just a bundle of parts, like a chariot.
No, we are an evolved system of parts. Big difference.
I believe your comment is an ad hominem, or non sequitur.

What does evolution have to do with anything I'm saying?

Buddhists, including me, are fine with evolution....
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10-12-2012, 07:51 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 07:42 PM)enochian Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 07:38 PM)Chas Wrote:  No, we are an evolved system of parts. Big difference.
I believe your comment is an ad hominem, or non sequitur.

What does evolution have to do with anything I'm saying?

Buddhists, including me, are fine with evolution....
Ad hominem? How so? I have not disparaged you.

Non sequitur? No, I am responding to 'mere collection' with 'evolved system'.

A chariot is not a mere collection, it is a designed device.

I am disagreeing with your descriptions.

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10-12-2012, 07:54 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 07:51 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 07:42 PM)enochian Wrote:  I believe your comment is an ad hominem, or non sequitur.

What does evolution have to do with anything I'm saying?

Buddhists, including me, are fine with evolution....
Ad hominem? How so? I have not disparaged you.

Non sequitur? No, I am responding to 'mere collection' with 'evolved system'.

A chariot is not a mere collection, it is a designed device.

I am disagreeing with your descriptions.
Oh my "god"....

Do I really have to point out the chariot is an analogy? It even says analogy in the quote.
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10-12-2012, 07:59 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 07:54 PM)enochian Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 07:51 PM)Chas Wrote:  Ad hominem? How so? I have not disparaged you.

Non sequitur? No, I am responding to 'mere collection' with 'evolved system'.

A chariot is not a mere collection, it is a designed device.

I am disagreeing with your descriptions.
Oh my "god"....

Do I really have to point out the chariot is an analogy? It even says analogy in the quote.
And I am pointing out that it is a poor analogy.

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10-12-2012, 08:03 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 07:59 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 07:54 PM)enochian Wrote:  Oh my "god"....

Do I really have to point out the chariot is an analogy? It even says analogy in the quote.
And I am pointing out that it is a poor analogy.
Let me get this straight.

So you think they preface every sentence in med school with some reference to evolution?

You don't make any sense to me.
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10-12-2012, 08:05 PM
RE: Fuck this title thing.
(10-12-2012 08:03 PM)enochian Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 07:59 PM)Chas Wrote:  And I am pointing out that it is a poor analogy.
Let me get this straight.

So you think they preface every sentence in med school with some reference to evolution?

You don't make any sense to me.


Now, that is a non sequitur.

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