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01-12-2015, 08:18 AM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2015 08:23 AM by goodwithoutgod.)
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
(01-12-2015 08:05 AM)Philosopher8659 Wrote:  A lot of people babbling here. View the text, and fault the arguments not your assumptions but by demonstrable facts of language. And if you don't understand the principles of language, there are other postings on the Archive such as A Universal Language, which will demonstrate them to you with thousands and examples.

Anyone can babble, but that is not language.

What can you name? Can you ever, ever, name a thing directly? Or must you always name an element of a thing and combine the elements? What are the principles of predication?

Providing a pointer towards some site's text doesn't demonstrate validity, or your knowledge of the information therein. You stumbled into theTHINKINGatheist website. Waving smoke in the air while bloviating about philosophical musings and word semantics doesn't impress me or us. Exegesis, and pseudo-hubris histrionics games based on a fictional book do not demonstrate anything.

"..the Metaphors of the Judeo-Christian Scripture define God and does it in a provable manner" is a faith claim, and even when you state it with confidence while nodding your head in an attempt to make it sound legit doesn't pass for empirical evidence here.

View the facts, and attempt to refute them with evidence, and not your assumptions. And if you don't understand the principles of theology, the fabrication of all gods by man, and the promulgation of the holy books by anonymous groups of delusional fans there are other postings here which will demonstrate them to you with a plethora of examples.

Again, welcome, you found theTHINKINGatheist. This isn't a yahoo subforum, we can validate, articulate, and substantiate our worldview....can you? Since you came here making a claim, prove it. best of luck.

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01-12-2015, 08:20 AM
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
(01-12-2015 08:15 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  *Raises hand*

So, a question?

Was there anything before language?

Also, which language might take 'precedent'? As in 'Is English the "better" language? Or is it Quenyar?" Unsure

Or Esperanto?
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01-12-2015, 08:21 AM
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
(01-12-2015 08:18 AM)Philosopher8659 Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 08:15 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  *Raises hand*

So, a question?

Was there anything before language?

Also, which language might take 'precedent'? As in 'Is English the "better" language? Or is it Quenyar?" Unsure

Again, if one is too lazy to view the actual argument pointed to then it is simply brute rudeness to babble asking questions which have already been answered in the argument.

People generally don't try so hard to look foolish.

The only person who appears foolish thus far is you. You are making a claim, and your proof thusfar is pointing to someone's else's website. Trust me when I say you are in the deep end of the pool here. We get a lot of hubris wannabe theistic trolls through here, and I usually light them on fire after beating them with the knowledge stick for a day or two until they whimper off never to return. Discovering and exposing them for the ineducable tyros that they are doesn't usually take long.

Still awaiting your claim, your proof, and your evidence.

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01-12-2015, 08:23 AM
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
(01-12-2015 08:18 AM)Philosopher8659 Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 08:15 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  *Raises hand*

So, a question?

Was there anything before language?

Also, which language might take 'precedent'? As in 'Is English the "better" language? Or is it Quenyar?" Unsure

Again, if one is too lazy to view the actual argument pointed to then it is simply brute rudeness to babble asking questions which have already been answered in the argument.

People generally don't try so hard to look foolish.


I don't see any comments in the opening posts which refer to the different abilities/styles/effects of using different languages.

More over, I see an assertion that the mind 'only' has language as a means of expression/interaction.

So, that seems to be a second thing that needs proving.
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01-12-2015, 08:40 AM
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
When I demonstrate that in the Judeo-Christian Scripture one is led to the reality that God is simply the principles of language which are functionally resident in the mind, only to get back dysfunctional arguments, exactly how does that compare with the statement of

the thinking atheist,

which is factually and demonstrably an oxymoron?
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01-12-2015, 08:43 AM
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
(01-12-2015 08:40 AM)Philosopher8659 Wrote:  When I demonstrate that in the Judeo-Christian Scripture one is led to the reality that God is simply the principles of language which are functionally resident in the mind, only to get back dysfunctional arguments, exactly how does that compare with the statement of

the thinking atheist,

which is factually and demonstrably an oxymoron?

Oh! You've already demonstrated it? Sorry, could you highlight the proof? Could you also answer some of the questions that have been put to yourself?

That would be great. Thumbsup
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01-12-2015, 08:53 AM
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
(01-12-2015 08:40 AM)Philosopher8659 Wrote:  When I demonstrate that in the Judeo-Christian Scripture one is led to the reality that God is simply the principles of language which are functionally resident in the mind, only to get back dysfunctional arguments, exactly how does that compare with the statement of

the thinking atheist,

which is factually and demonstrably an oxymoron?

Yes, god is in the mind, ONLY the mind.

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

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01-12-2015, 08:57 AM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2015 11:51 AM by Chas.)
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
(01-12-2015 07:17 AM)Philosopher8659 Wrote:  Actually, God can be proven, however, it is not the God of mythology.

Every word in the Subject Naming Convention is defined by the Predicate Naming Convention, which itself is not defined it is learned by perception. see biological fact and the works of Plato.

Metaphor works then just like a mathematical equation. You take a word, say God, and define it through its predicates, i.e. only what is knowable, or again causality.

When you can do that, you find out that the Metaphors of the Judeo-Christian Scripture define God and does it in a provable manner. God is not a person, an anthropomorphic entity, but the only power a mind has, Linguistic Functionality.

That is why it is written in that text, and in several places, that it is sealed to man's understanding until a particular time in human history, and that those seals can only be loosened by a very specific key. That key is a linguistic puzzle.

See; Revelations 5.
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One can search YouTube for the demo, or the Internet Archive for different media. It is a demonstration in linguistics.

If language is, and it is, the only power a mind has, then man is provably made in the image of God, but what that means must follow the principles of language, not proto-language of current human usage.

Pretentious, pedantic, pompous, pathetic, and circular.
Language is the invention of the mind as are gods.

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01-12-2015, 09:01 AM
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
Lolwut? Since you won't last the week, I won't bother with a proper welcome. Drinking Beverage

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01-12-2015, 09:01 AM
RE: Theist, Atheist, and Agnostics have always been demonstrably wrong.
Well then, that makes your views equal to the theists. Good show. And it also makes you mind totally impotent. Must be age.
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