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19-02-2017, 01:17 PM (This post was last modified: 19-02-2017 01:21 PM by Robvalue.)
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
I'm making them your business. I give him permission to tell you any thoughts of mine he wants to.

The fact that you can predict what God is going to tell you is quite interesting.

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19-02-2017, 01:52 PM (This post was last modified: 19-02-2017 01:55 PM by Stevil.)
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
(19-02-2017 12:34 PM)Alla Wrote:  My faith is growing and faith is the most important principle of the Gospel of Christ.
This is where our philosophies differ drastically.

My philosophy is the complete opposite of this.
I think skeptisicm is the most important principle in life.
There was a cool billboard I saw two weeks ago, can't remember it word for word but it went something like this.
"It is important to ask questions but it is more important to question answers"
I would hate a school that doesn't teach children to question answers, to take the word of the teacher or organisation on faith. That would raise huge red flags for me.
(19-02-2017 12:34 PM)Alla Wrote:  But faith in God is super duper important. Also you have much less knowledge about God than I do.
I have no faith in god and no knowledge of god and yet my life is no less than that of a Christian. To me god is not important at all.
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19-02-2017, 05:55 PM
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
(19-02-2017 12:10 PM)Alla Wrote:  
TheInquisition Wrote:You just described confirmation bias, now haven't we been through this idea of you knowing anything is from a source you can trust?
Yes, we have been.
TheInquisition Wrote:Where was Brigham Young's source for the Adam-God concept?
I don't know. I have never asked God. I don't even know if I understand correctly Adam-God concept. Brigham Young never explained it.
BTW, do you know what scripture is according to Brigham Young?
TheInquisition Wrote:I also remember, as do many others here, where you said you wouldn't post here again, yet here you are, demonstrating you are a liar once again.

define "a liar", please.

Adam God doctrine

According to the doctrine, Adam was once a mortal man who became resurrected and exalted. From another planet, he then came as Michael to form Earth.

Adam brought Eve, one of his wives, with him to Earth, where they became mortal by eating the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. After bearing mortal children and establishing the human race, Adam and Eve returned to their heavenly thrones where Adam serves as God and is the Heavenly Father of humankind.

Later, Adam returned to the Earth to the ancient prophets, and to become the literal father of Jesus.


Simple question- is the Adam God doctrine correct?

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19-02-2017, 06:42 PM
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
Robvalue Wrote:The fact that you can predict what God is going to tell you is quite interesting.
It is much easier to predict things when you have good amount of knowledge and experience. Don't you agree with this?
If you touch hot iron and burn your fingers you probably will predict very accurately what will happen to your fingers if you do it again. Agree?
I have enough knowledge about God and principles of the Gospel to predict this answer.

Robvalue Wrote:I'm making them your business. I give him permission to tell you any thoughts of mine he wants to.
Why, thank you. You are very kind. But it doesn't matter. Let me tell you something:

1)God will not move a finger when He knows you can REVEAL this big mystery to me.
2)Trust me you don't want me to know any thoughts of yours. You are going to be the most miserable person on the planet Earth if any person could get access to your head. God whom I worship would never be so cruel to you. BTW, I am not sure I want to know any thought of yours.
3)If I ask God what number you have in your head I will do it without real intent and sincere heart. Why? Because I really don't care what number you thinking about.
4)God does not reveal things if:
a)they are NOT important for salvation
b)if there is a way to find out answers without Him. You can reveal it to me. Al I have to do is to ask you. And if you don't tell me I think I can survive.
5)I did NOT EARN this kind of privilege yet. Privilege to know other people thoughts unless they reveal their thoughts to me.

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19-02-2017, 07:00 PM
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
Stevil Wrote:This is where our philosophies differ drastically.
My philosophy is the complete opposite of this.

There was a cool billboard I saw two weeks ago, can't remember it word for word but it went something like this.
"It is important to ask questions but it is more important to question answers"
Stevil Wrote:I would hate a school that doesn't teach children to question answers, to take the word of the teacher or organisation on faith. That would raise huge red flags for me.
I agree with you. To question answers is also very, very important. When you question answers it means you are still searching for the truth. You are NOT convinced. God wants us to do this: to ask questions and to question answers. But "to have faith in God" is not only to ask questions and to question answers, it is also act/ to experiment. When we act/experiment we learn MORE truth. We experiment until we are satisfied with the answer completely. Until we are convinced.

Stevil Wrote:I have no faith in god and no knowledge of god and yet my life is no less than that of a Christian.
I am not sure I understand what you mean. Could you be more specific, please?

Stevil Wrote:To me god is not important at all.
OK, I believe you.

Stevil Wrote:I think skeptisicm is the most important principle in life.
why this principle is the most important principle in life?

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19-02-2017, 07:03 PM
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
TheInquisition Wrote:According to the doctrine, Adam was once a mortal man who became resurrected and exalted. From another planet, he then came as Michael to form Earth.

Adam brought Eve, one of his wives, with him to Earth, where they became mortal by eating the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. After bearing mortal children and establishing the human race, Adam and Eve returned to their heavenly thrones where Adam serves as God and is the Heavenly Father of humankind.

Later, Adam returned to the Earth to the ancient prophets, and to become the literal father of Jesus.

What is your question? questions?

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19-02-2017, 07:03 PM
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
(19-02-2017 06:42 PM)Alla Wrote:  
Robvalue Wrote:The fact that you can predict what God is going to tell you is quite interesting.
It is much easier to predict things when you have good amount of knowledge and experience. Don't you agree with this?
If you touch hot iron and burn your fingers you probably will predict very accurately what will happen to your fingers if you do it again. Agree?
I have enough knowledge about God and principles of the Gospel to predict this answer.
But if god is an intelligence rather than an object (which can be accurately defined by a set of rules) then you would need to interogate and observe the god rather than predict the outcome.
If the god were completely predictable then you wouldn't need your god to be intelligent. If your god were merely following rules then all you need is to know the rules and know how to process them. You could build a rules based machine to do that.
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19-02-2017, 07:30 PM
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Stevil Wrote:But if god is an intelligence rather than an object (which can be accurately defined by a set of rules) then you would need to interogate and observe the god rather than predict the outcome.
God is intelligent Man.
God revealed enough knowledge through His prophets that I could predict His answer to that particular question of Rob.
I already knew that I don't have a privilege to know another man's heart or thoughts. That is why I can not judge another man's conscience(heart).

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19-02-2017, 07:31 PM
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
(19-02-2017 05:55 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  
(19-02-2017 12:10 PM)Alla Wrote:  Yes, we have been.
I don't know. I have never asked God. I don't even know if I understand correctly Adam-God concept. Brigham Young never explained it.
BTW, do you know what scripture is according to Brigham Young?

define "a liar", please.

Adam God doctrine

According to the doctrine, Adam was once a mortal man who became resurrected and exalted. From another planet, he then came as Michael to form Earth.

Adam brought Eve, one of his wives, with him to Earth, where they became mortal by eating the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. After bearing mortal children and establishing the human race, Adam and Eve returned to their heavenly thrones where Adam serves as God and is the Heavenly Father of humankind.

Later, Adam returned to the Earth to the ancient prophets, and to become the literal father of Jesus.


Simple question- is the Adam God doctrine correct?

So basically... according to the Mormons, god is a literal alien wizard.

Good to know.

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19-02-2017, 07:34 PM
RE: Theistic Evolution Questions
(19-02-2017 07:31 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  So basically... according to the Mormons, god is a literal alien wizard.

Good to know.

umm... kind of Smile

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