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19-09-2016, 03:05 AM (This post was last modified: 19-09-2016 07:26 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
(18-09-2016 07:53 PM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  
(18-09-2016 07:02 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I'm not talking about the Republican electorate, I'm talking about the Republican Party.

My guess is they don't want to divide the Republican party any more than Trump already has.


And in trying to hold it together, they lost it all to a mad man.


Trump is the conclusion of decades worth of jingoistic, fear-mongering, xenophobic politics. He's an establishment 'outsider' who found success with the Republican base by dropping euphemisms in favor of plain spoken hatred and ignorance. Mainstream Republicans have been pandering to voters by marginalizing minorities, but always had to be vague enough about it to win a general election in areas not gerrymandered to hell. Mainstream Republicans warned of dangerous migrants, Trump just calls them murderers and rapists. Republicans want more funds to secure the border, Trump wants to build a wall to make Berlin blush and claims he'll get Mexico to pay for it, in addition to wanting to round up and deport all current illegal immigrants (both of which are almost impossible money sinks). They've primed their base for just this kind of pandering, and now a narcissistic middling reality TV personality is beating them at their game by not following their rules. He's a janitor in charge of the rioting asylum.


He's a habitual liar, who considers the truth to be whatever is most convenient for him at that very moment. He's a supremely confident man who sells himself on the perception of his success, and that the nation and the voters can be great just like him if only they vote for him; he's using the same tactics infomercial use to sell people on celebrity diet pills. He's also a petty asshole, who threatens to sue people as easily and as often as most people excuse someone else sneezing. He maintains a personal grudge against a magazine that made fun of his hands in 1988. Is that someone you want in charge of anything of importance, let alone the most powerful military force on the planet? I wouldn't feel safe leaving him alone with a box of crayons and safety scissors.


Trump is the human equivalent of a gold Sharpie marker; something that gives the appearance of wealth, but is really just a cheap tool.

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19-09-2016, 03:24 AM
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
Perhaps better for the Reps to simply write this one off and spend the time rebuilding and working for a more sensible, yet still fully representative, political campaign system.

American politics seems broke, broke, broke!

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19-09-2016, 05:06 AM
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
I look forward to seeing him winning. It's been really interesting watching the election from a non-American perspective. Hillary may as well just give up.
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19-09-2016, 06:46 AM
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
Unless you're on another planet, there is no non-American perspective. Whatever happens in the US affects the world.

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19-09-2016, 06:47 AM
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
(19-09-2016 05:06 AM)Lucipurr Wrote:  I look forward to seeing him winning. It's been really interesting watching the election from a non-American perspective. Hillary may as well just give up.

I don't know where you live, but probably you are not safe with a malignant narcissist at the helm of the US.

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19-09-2016, 07:42 AM
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
It scares the shit out of me how many people ignore all the vile crap he has spewed for years and the very dangerous demagoguery of entire groups. He's gotten away with calling captured Veterans losers and that alone should disqualify him. This isn't a left or right issue now. This isn't an economic issue now. The tone Trump is setting in politics is extremely dangerous long term. He can't become a dictator overnight no, but if more politicians FROM EITHER party from the county, city, state or congressional level use the same scapegoating demagoguery of rivals, long term that will erode our western concepts of pluralism and peaceful transfer of power.

Powell has condemned his birther garbage. Fellow billionaire Mark Cuban has called his tactics "Headline Porn" and 50 REPUBLICAN law agents have called him dangerous. Now if those who are voting for him but don't consider themselves hateful bigots, fine, but then you have a duty to shut him up and demand he stop using such divisive language. If you refuse to do that, then you are even worse than the far right whom he clearly panders to by ignoring even those in his own party that accept he is dangerous.

He is running for our highest office, he isn't simply a cable TV radio shock jock and this is not an episode of Jerry Springer. His running mate Mike Pence is anti LGBT, the same party that fought gay marriage and to this day still tries to deny equal rights to gays. I find it sad and sick that those who would ignore Trumps sick pandering to fear of the other, are the same people who would rightfully point to the theocracies of the middle east whom also have a problem with "others". Funny how our right wing Christians are as hateful as Islamic theocracies and hate LGBT as much and funny how they love revenge and guns and "get tough" language too.

So again, if you support Trump but don't consider yourself hateful, then you are as much a part of the problem for not condemning him like Powell has rightfully done. Trump is a very literal threat, not only to national stability, but global stability as well. Michelle Obama "We cant have a president who simply pops off".

I cannot explain Trump's success outside my understanding of evolution. Sadly we evolved to form groups, and while that does have the benefit of social survival, it times of threat, our species can and unfortunately has, turned to the worst among us for protection.

We fortunately at the same time have the ability to override that fear and we must not allow Trump's fear to win. To allow him to win is a very dangerous message that fearing others is good politics. In politics, using fear of rivals is what gives rise to despotic states and theocracies.

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19-09-2016, 08:21 AM
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(18-09-2016 02:47 PM)pablo Wrote:  What really worries me is that there might be just enough third-party voters out there to hand that nut the White House.

I feel like they're taking more votes from him than from Clinton though. Johnson and Trump both draw support from anti-establishment types, I think they're fishing in the same pond and Hillary's casting her nets in other waters entirely.
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19-09-2016, 08:41 AM
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
(19-09-2016 06:47 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(19-09-2016 05:06 AM)Lucipurr Wrote:  I look forward to seeing him winning. It's been really interesting watching the election from a non-American perspective. Hillary may as well just give up.

I don't know where you live, but probably you are not safe with a malignant narcissist at the helm of the US.

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19-09-2016, 08:46 AM
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
(18-09-2016 02:47 PM)pablo Wrote:  What really worries me is that there might be just enough third-party voters out there to hand that nut the White House.

I'm also concerned that too many sit out the election because they can't bring themselves to vote Clinton. I fully understand both sentiments but I hope it doesn't end up working in his favor.

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19-09-2016, 09:31 AM (This post was last modified: 19-09-2016 09:40 AM by TrainWreck.)
RE: There is nothing Trump can say.
(18-09-2016 02:41 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  There is absolutely nothing he can say that will dissuade his fanatic supporters (some less fanatic still might say "Enough!" though). And anyone who is frightened by the level of megalomania apparent in that statement will never get over it. Better at being Director of Central Intelligence? Better at being Secretary of Defense? Really? This guy cannot handle ANY criticism at all.
It doesn't seem like you have analyzed politics, which is par for the course for all people - you're all pretty stupid. Very few of us are at the preferred end of the bell curve. Those of us who are have to hang out with all of you in the fat part of the curve, and we have to bounce from idiot to idiot until we realize you are idiots.

Trump can handle criticism, but the person doing the criticism has to have a honorable reputation and a developed line of reasoning - something atheists like to claim they are the guardians of; but you do not have it, otherwise, you would have realized that the governing system does not promote reason, because it was designed in a bygone era. The system is inadequate, and the politicians take advantage of it - corruption. You working class schmucks cannot keep track of what is going on, because you are at work all day and don't have time to watch C-SPAN, like us welfare recepients!

Trump has taken advantage of the corrupt politicians - he knows the inside track on it. He does not need to be corrupt, its just that that is how the system is because the establishment maintains it because they get cushy jobs in Washington that you cannot keep track of, because you are working your stupid asses off for them. The corrupt establishment has no plans to fix the corrupt system.

Trump got double-crossed by Hillary (she is corrupt - she only understands corruption - she uses people), just like Putin and Russia was double-crossed by Hillary. Russia is not our enemy. Russia wants prosperity, but they cannot replicate our governing system, because it is corrupt!!!

Get this through that thick skull of yours - the political system is CORRUPT, because the separation of political powers is inadequate!

(18-09-2016 02:41 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  What I don't understand is how the Republicans will allow him to be elected. This is not someone malleable to their collective will or agenda. They should be more afraid of him than the Democrats.
Trump has already proven to us that he wants what we want - economic sense. Trump is an outsider. He does not need to be a politician to make his money - he already made it!

The Democrats are inevitably corrupt - they know the system is inadequate and that most of the people are too stupid to figure it out and fix it. They know that all they have to do is call their opponent a racist and that gets the votes of the dumb minorities and the whiny pussy white people, like you. All they have to do is call their opponent a homophobe, and they get the vote of the rainbows. And it goes on, and on, stupid people voting in people who are taking advantage of them.

Hillary Clinton is dying. She is coughing-up a lung on stage and nobody is showing any concern, because she has told them not to. Hillary became unconscious at the 9/11 memorial and nobody acted like it was a surprize - and she was at the memorial alone she was not with anybody we recognize - she was not accompanied by her husband, her daughter, or her first aide that we know, Huma Abdemin.

Hillary Clinton is running for the Presidency, because she wants the legacy fame associated with it, she wants the services provided because she believes she is to be privileged, and she wants it to avoid prosecution for her deselection of duties as Secretary of State. She is not doing it because she cares about you, working class schmucks.

Trump cares about the working class schmucks - he does not rip them-off, as the Democrats would like you to believe.

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