There never was or will be a thing called "God".
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11-01-2016, 12:02 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 08:34 AM)riju Wrote:  If one looks inside his body deep, deep, deeply , one nice day he will know that he is God himself.
We all are Gods ( or part of fractured God).
If we go one looking inside our body WITH AWARENESS, the God in you will come out shining better and better. This happens because God's various fractures merge in him and ONE DAY HE KNOWS THAT HE IS GOD/
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Every one is God or still alternately , THERE IS NO GOD, because He alone exists in this existence and nothing else exists beyond Him

So you're saying god is a shiny turd and religious people are full of shit.

Sounds about right.

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11-01-2016, 12:10 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
Do you count deism?

Because that, on the other hand, is unfalsifiable by design...

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11-01-2016, 12:12 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 08:34 AM)riju Wrote:  If one looks inside his body deep, deep, deeply , one nice day he will know that he is God himself.
We all are Gods ( or part of fractured God).
If we go one looking inside our body WITH AWARENESS, the God in you will come out shining better and better. This happens because God's various fractures merge in him and ONE DAY HE KNOWS THAT HE IS GOD/
or
Every one is God or still alternately , THERE IS NO GOD, because He alone exists in this existence and nothing else exists beyond Him

No.

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11-01-2016, 12:37 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 12:10 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Do you count deism?

Because that, on the other hand, is unfalsifiable by design...

Who are you addressing? I say myself that deism or pantheism for that matter are just as much gap answer woo as old standard woo.

There is no cognition needed as a starting point for nature or the universe to happen.

It is precisely because none of those can be falsified that one should reject those claims. Scientific method requires testing, control groups, falsification and peer review.

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11-01-2016, 12:53 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 12:37 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  
(11-01-2016 12:10 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Do you count deism?

Because that, on the other hand, is unfalsifiable by design...

Who are you addressing? I say myself that deism or pantheism for that matter are just as much gap answer woo as old standard woo.

Pantheism is incoherent, sure, albeit only insofar as it effectively amounts to deism or theism anyway. But deism is fundamentally different from interventionist theism in that the latter is falsifiable. You only referred to the latter.
(in principle, notwithstanding idiotic apologetics - the contrast is with the strictly necessarily unfalsifiable nature of deistic arguments)

(11-01-2016 12:37 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  There is no cognition needed as a starting point for nature or the universe to happen.

How do you know?

I see no reason to suppose there is, but I make no claim to knowing that. For that matter, "not necessary" still doesn't then imply "didn't happen", as far as the logic goes.

(11-01-2016 12:37 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  It is precisely because none of those can be falsified that one should reject those claims. Scientific method requires testing, control groups, falsification and peer review.

Scientific methods apply to scientific claims. The unfalsifiable isn't false, it's simply irrelevant.
(but now we have to consider the difference between necessarily unfalsifiable and currently unfalsifiable; quantum mechanics was as true in the 16th century as it is now, but it would have been entirely untestable and thus unfalsifiable at the time)

Maybe it seems tedious to you, but settling the ambiguities is vital in any honest debate.
(most apologists are far from honest, but then it's even more important, to forestall equivocation)

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11-01-2016, 05:54 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 07:03 AM)Banjo Wrote:  Only in fiction. Like Darth Vader, but far worse.

Vader was the baddest bad-ass that ever was. He grabbed the Emperor, force bolts and all, and hurled him screaming into the abyss.

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11-01-2016, 05:57 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 08:34 AM)riju Wrote:  If one looks inside his body deep, deep, deeply , one nice day he will know that he is God himself.
We all are Gods ( or part of fractured God).
If we go one looking inside our body WITH AWARENESS, the God in you will come out shining better and better. This happens because God's various fractures merge in him and ONE DAY HE KNOWS THAT HE IS GOD/

You have done well, grasshopper.




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11-01-2016, 05:58 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 08:56 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Everyone here already knows Bob is God.
Get over it. Bangin

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11-01-2016, 06:00 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 12:53 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Pantheism is incoherent, sure, albeit only insofar as it effectively amounts to deism or theism anyway.

From a pragmatic perspective, pantheism is indistinguishable from atheism.

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11-01-2016, 09:22 PM
RE: There never was or will be a thing called "God".
(11-01-2016 05:58 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(11-01-2016 08:56 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Everyone here already knows Bob is God.
Get over it. Bangin

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