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09-08-2012, 12:43 PM
These people are so dishonest and/or desperate...
The Most Influential Evangelist You've Never Heard Of

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09-08-2012, 12:47 PM
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(09-08-2012 12:43 PM)Chas Wrote:  The Most Influential Evangelist You've Never Heard Of

My wife made me listen to that podcast before going to bed last night -- I think I had nightmares...

Truly amazing -- I mean, I'm a historian by education -- I was flat out speechless...

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09-08-2012, 12:52 PM
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A perfect example of what's wrong with a theocracy. Just when you think you've heard the last word in batshit crazy, someone will inevitably come along, who is even more nuts than the last guy.

What's really scary is :
"Still, Barton has many supporters, though few of them are historians. One is Mat Staver, dean of Liberty University's Law School."
"I think he's a corrective to historians," Staver says. "In fact, I would put him against any historian and would have no question who would win in a debate."

OMf'nG.

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09-08-2012, 12:55 PM
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(09-08-2012 12:52 PM)San Onofre Surfer Wrote:  What's really scary is :
"Still, Barton has many supporters, though few of them are historians. One is Mat Staver, dean of Liberty University's Law School."


OMf'nG.

I looked this nutjob up on Facebook last night -- over 50,000 followers!! This is the kind of crap that makes me write my blog...therapy from insanity...

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09-08-2012, 01:07 PM
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I worry about this kind of thing. The things we know of history are won at such great cost. To change them would be easy, to make it so that only the authorized version is taught... and then we *lose* those lessons. These kinds of people make me sick.
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10-08-2012, 12:04 PM
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Good news!

publisher-pulls-controversial-thomas-jefferson-book-citing-loss-of-confidence

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012...confidence

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10-08-2012, 12:18 PM
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(10-08-2012 12:04 PM)Seasbury Wrote:  Good news!

publisher-pulls-controversial-thomas-jefferson-book-citing-loss-of-confidence

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012...confidence

They need to pull this latest one, too, for the very same treasons reasons.

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10-08-2012, 01:15 PM
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The fact that they published it at all shows that they're an unscrupulous bunch of money grabbers anyway Angry . How hard would it have been for them to get one historian, or two, if they didn't like the first one's review, to have a quick look and tell them that "basic truths were not there".
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10-08-2012, 06:40 PM
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This only supports my theory of a religious-spurred civil war in the United States. Vosur, you still doubting me yet?

*I know it is a ridiculous theory, and I don't take it too seriously.

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12-08-2012, 11:43 PM
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The idea that people like David Barton are influencing our politicians scares the shit out of me.

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