Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
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17-11-2012, 08:00 PM (This post was last modified: 17-11-2012 08:03 PM by ThinkingOhio.)
Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
I've never really been a believer, but I also don't have a burning desire for anybody to know my opinion. I've never said anything mostly because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

But I'm getting tired of hiding my e-books, podcasts, and web sites like they are some kind of atheist porn!
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17-11-2012, 08:16 PM
RE: Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
1. You have the right to live however you want, and to say and do as you want (within the law of course). However, that means others have the right to do the same - which means speaking out against you. They may be able to harass you over being open, but they have no right to prevent you from being open.

2. Stand up for reason, and morality when someone tries to use magic or fantasy as a justification to impact someone's life - when they vote, or donate, or interact with people in a negative way.

3. I had to google "Atheist porn" to make sure I wasn't missing a sub genre Dodgy
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17-11-2012, 08:20 PM
RE: Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
Well the first question to ask yourself would be is: "Can I still coexist with my family?" What I mean by that is; will you be able to live with your parents (or any other family members for that matter) without always getting into an argument. I don't know how old you are or what your situation is but if you think you could possibly harm your relationships by coming out then i would suggest waiting for a while. Just be careful about it and make sure it really is a good time to come out. Maybe ask what they think about atheists? Just to test the waters

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17-11-2012, 08:24 PM
RE: Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
(17-11-2012 08:20 PM)TwelfthHunter Wrote:  Well the first question to ask yourself would be is: "Can I still coexist with my family?" What I mean by that is; will you be able to live with your parents (or any other family members for that matter) without always getting into an argument. I don't know how old you are or what your situation is but if you think you could possibly harm your relationships by coming out then i would suggest waiting for a while. Just be careful about it and make sure it really is a good time to come out. Maybe ask what they think about atheists? Just to test the waters

That's an important point. If you are dependent on the people that you live with (food, housing, allowances, etc) and they're insane enough to cut you off from it, for the love of god, just play along until you can get out of there.
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17-11-2012, 08:28 PM
RE: Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
Quote: Maybe ask what they think about atheists?
I wonder if most people will answer that question with a cultural bias? It's almost like asking "What do you think of the Emperor's lovely new clothes?" I don't want them to give some stock answer and then have to backpedal once they find out I'm talking about myself.
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17-11-2012, 08:29 PM
RE: Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
(17-11-2012 08:24 PM)poolboyg88 Wrote:  
(17-11-2012 08:20 PM)TwelfthHunter Wrote:  Well the first question to ask yourself would be is: "Can I still coexist with my family?" What I mean by that is; will you be able to live with your parents (or any other family members for that matter) without always getting into an argument. I don't know how old you are or what your situation is but if you think you could possibly harm your relationships by coming out then i would suggest waiting for a while. Just be careful about it and make sure it really is a good time to come out. Maybe ask what they think about atheists? Just to test the waters

That's an important point. If you are dependent on the people that you live with (food, housing, allowances, etc) and they're insane enough to cut you off from it, for the love of god, just play along until you can get out of there.
I agree. The problem is: How would you know for sure that they would kick you out? That's why i included the "What they think about atheists" question. Or could that be suspicious?

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17-11-2012, 08:34 PM
RE: Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
(17-11-2012 08:28 PM)ThinkingOhio Wrote:  
Quote: Maybe ask what they think about atheists?
I wonder if most people will answer that question with a cultural bias? It's almost like asking "What do you think of the Emperor's lovely new clothes?" I don't want them to give some stock answer and then have to backpedal once they find out I'm talking about myself.
Yeah I forgot about cultural bias. I'll admit that it is a tough situation. What about very vague conversation about the topic and veil it as innocent curiosity?

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17-11-2012, 08:35 PM
RE: Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
I'm in my 40s. Married with children. Not dependent on any family. My wife's family is very religious, but she isn't. We don't go to church. Never had our boys circumcised or baptized.

My #1 consideration is my parents. They have both lost their parents and siblings within the last 5 years, and I think they get a great deal of comfort thinking there is an afterlife and those people are waiting for us to catch up to them some day. If I decide to tell them, I need to figure out a way to soften the blow so it doesn't unintentionally come out as "your belief in Heaven is bullshit."
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17-11-2012, 08:39 PM (This post was last modified: 17-11-2012 08:46 PM by Reltzik.)
RE: Thinking about "coming out" as an atheist
(17-11-2012 08:00 PM)ThinkingOhio Wrote:  I've never really been a believer, but I also don't have a burning desire for anybody to know my opinion. I've never said anything mostly because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

But I'm getting tired of hiding my e-books, podcasts, and web sites like they are some kind of atheist porn!
Depends so vary much on your situation and your environment. Test the waters carefully. Move gradually. Be sure to speak to individuals in confidence unless you want it to spread by gossip. Consider just not hiding the stuff, if that's your only reason to want to be out. Compose your thoughts and words deliberately, that's the key to avoiding hurt feeling. Also, it's how to avoid creating a Rule 34-B situation. Shame, shame, shame.

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17-11-2012, 08:42 PM
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(17-11-2012 08:39 PM)Reltzik Wrote:  Consider just not hiding the stuff, if that's your only reason to want to be out.
LOL. No, that was kind of a joke. Although I would rather tell the people I love on my own terms rather than getting "found out" because of all the Hitchens on my iPad. Smile
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