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29-06-2015, 06:14 PM
RE: This is strange
(29-06-2015 03:47 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  I'm always confused why African Americans cling to the bible. Last week there was some super crazy bi-polar religious stuff going on regarding same sex marriage and the funeral of Pinckney.

I scanned some comments from news sources around the web and found two opposing positions. Many black people are against gay marriage because of jebus but supportive of Obama. I don't know how Obama does it but he's like a conduit between LGBT progress and religious African Americans. He seems to keep saltwater and freshwater from mixing in the pipes.

Then there's the Confederate flag. Here's a flag supported by many religious nuts as a symbol of slavery (though they deny it) yet African Americans cling to the Bible in which god supports slavery.

Then there's Obama care. If Jesus was alive today he'd be a socialist and supportive of ACA but religious conservatives are against it.

I know right now my head is spinning from a sinus infection, but damn, it's spinning more from all the dizzying craziness of the last few day.

I think I recall reading that the cultural ties between African Americans and teh Bibal goes back to the slavery days.
Lots of them could only learn to read by using bibles, as other texts and resources were closed off to the slaves, so over time the culture and religion merged somewhat.

But I'd have no idea of the facts of this.

The people closely associated with the namesake of female canines are suffering from a nondescript form of lunacy.
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29-06-2015, 06:50 PM
RE: This is strange
(29-06-2015 06:02 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(29-06-2015 04:18 PM)Cosmic Discourse Wrote:  I've spoken about similar topics in mixed company, and even posed the question to a secular psychologist, after a talk he gave. It's my belief (purely speculative) that if churches weren't given certain protections during the civil rights era, there's a strong possibility that black Americans would've developed strategies outside of the churches, and not clung so deeply to the faith of their oppressors.

When I've presented this same argument to family members who lived through those times, they seem to agree that in some instances, this may very well have been the case.

When it comes to discussion of LGBT issues, I take a hard-line stance with my fellow people of color. I remind them how hypocritical it is, to side with any oppressor, when they themselves are not too far removed from blatant hatred and oppression.

But it seems that bible belief trumps everything, especially when it comes to LGBT and sex. They don't consider themselves to be hypocritical because critical thinking doesn't enter the picture.
In most cases, you're absolutely right. Blind allegiance to clearly hypocritical nonsense is a common side effect of institutionalized brainwashing. At which point, I usually cease efforts to have a rational discussion with the close minded.
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