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07-10-2012, 08:49 AM
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
(07-10-2012 08:34 AM)Ozzie Wrote:  Earmuffs, If you have nothing constructive to say, why bother replying? To you the United States is a hopeless piece of excrement, but you ignore the millions of secularists in this country who are fighting to make sure that this nation will continue to to remain a secular Republic, and to ensure that we maintain our scientific and technological superiority in the world. To us our country is not a piece of excrement, but something worth fighting over....and we are the fastest growing minority in America. Thank you for completely glossing over us with your very unhelpful comments.

Scientific and technological superiority?
lolwut?
Japan, Europe have you herd of these places?

And of course I ignore them. The religious conservative rule your country. Even when Democrats are in religious conservatism drives everything. Everything is a struggle with you, blacks rights, womens rights, gays rights, socialist healthcare.
America is so far stuck in the dark ages and yet you'll are so blind to it.
Your ability to adapt and change is next to non-existent. You can say there is a few people trying to fight blah blah but it falls on deaf ears here just like it falls on deaf ears in your country.

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07-10-2012, 09:06 AM (This post was last modified: 07-10-2012 09:10 AM by Ozzie.)
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
I'm sorry, I searched and honestly didn't see the other thread. Excuse my carlessness.

Earmuffs, if you expect me to apologize for being an American, or to feel shame because I am an American, you'll get none of that from me. I am very grateful to be an American as opposed to a New Zealander, European, or anything else. You'll get no pity parties from me. Proud to be an American, even with all the faults this country has.

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07-10-2012, 09:11 AM
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
(07-10-2012 09:06 AM)Ozzie Wrote:  I am very grateful to be an American as opposed to a New Zealander, European, or anything else. [...] Proud to be an American, even with all the faults this country has.
Do you care to elaborate on why you think that way?

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07-10-2012, 09:22 AM (This post was last modified: 07-10-2012 09:29 AM by Ozzie.)
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
(07-10-2012 09:11 AM)Vosur Wrote:  
(07-10-2012 09:06 AM)Ozzie Wrote:  I am very grateful to be an American as opposed to a New Zealander, European, or anything else. [...] Proud to be an American, even with all the faults this country has.
Do you care to elaborate on why you think that way?

Because when I was exiled from my country of birth for the pro-human rights and pro-democratic views of my family, it was the United States that welcomed me with open arms. It was the United States which gave me the opportunity to become an American citizen and enjoy the same protections and privileges that other American citizens enjoy. It wasn't New Zealand, France, the UK, or any other country that opened its arms out to me, it was the United States of America. So you better believe that I am very damn proud of being a US citizen , and that I would give everything I have for this country (even with every single damn imperfection that it has.) And nothing anyone says will make me feel any different about the United States.

That is why I care so much about seeing the Evangelical cancer eradicated from our politics, our schools, and our laws. That is why I refuse to ever give up on this country.

(07-10-2012 08:49 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  America is so far stuck in the dark ages and yet you'll are so blind to it.

Mr. New Zealander, I know what real lack of freedom feels like. I know what real oppression is. The United States might have it's flaws, but it is a million times better than a lot of places on this planet...including the place I was born. But why let the facts get in the way of some fashionable anti-Americanism, right?

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07-10-2012, 10:18 AM
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
An Ateist is an sceptical thinker in the first place.
You are an patriot, and thats not what i would call an sceptic thinker.
You stuck in your worldview of america as number one of the world.
This is the same thing with all the other patriots in all other countrys in the world.
So, you have got a problem in america?
Here is the solution for it:
Stopp pushing our helping hands away!
The last thing you need is your blind proud in your country!

We are enter a time now, were nations and countrys will break-down, if we are unable for cooperation.
Read your own Text above, you discribe a real threat to all of us, and i think i have now often enough told to anybody here, i am a german.
But thats what you did'nt grasp, today this happend to you, tomorrow is my ass in the same danger.

One word to your superior-thing.
I use to live in a country, were the majority of people in the past beliefed they were superior in every manner.
We even killed in two wars 76 billions of people for that insanity, including our own people.
So, we are the true master of desaster.
Do you want to learn from the history of my people?
Search friends, cooperate, open your minds and stopp telling this stupid patriot-sermone.
You are not superior, you are allone.

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07-10-2012, 10:35 AM
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(07-10-2012 09:22 AM)Ozzie Wrote:  Because when I was exiled from my country of birth for the pro-human rights and pro-democratic views of my family, it was the United States that welcomed me with open arms. It was the United States which gave me the opportunity to become an American citizen and enjoy the same protections and privileges that other American citizens enjoy. It wasn't New Zealand, France, the UK, or any other country that opened its arms out to me, it was the United States of America. So you better believe that I am very damn proud of being a US citizen , and that I would give everything I have for this country (even with every single damn imperfection that it has.) And nothing anyone says will make me feel any different about the United States.

That is why I care so much about seeing the Evangelical cancer eradicated from our politics, our schools, and our laws. That is why I refuse to ever give up on this country.
Out of curiosity, what's your country of birth?

Anyway, I see why you would be a 'militant' atheist, but what reason do other people, especially people living outside of the USA, have for being that way?

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07-10-2012, 10:48 AM
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
(07-10-2012 08:30 AM)Vosur Wrote:  What do you think a "militant atheist" does, in contrast to a "regular atheist"? Sleepy

We blow up...

erm...

balloons?

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07-10-2012, 11:26 AM
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
(07-10-2012 10:48 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(07-10-2012 08:30 AM)Vosur Wrote:  What do you think a "militant atheist" does, in contrast to a "regular atheist"? Sleepy

We blow up...

erm...

balloons?
We shout back, with better arguments and with the audience in mind.
We are visible in public, as example for a differend viewpoint.
Hopefully we never have to grab a gun, but i can not exclude this finally.

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07-10-2012, 12:08 PM
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
(07-10-2012 09:22 AM)Ozzie Wrote:  
(07-10-2012 09:11 AM)Vosur Wrote:  Do you care to elaborate on why you think that way?

Because when I was exiled from my country of birth for the pro-human rights and pro-democratic views of my family, it was the United States that welcomed me with open arms. It was the United States which gave me the opportunity to become an American citizen and enjoy the same protections and privileges that other American citizens enjoy. It wasn't New Zealand, France, the UK, or any other country that opened its arms out to me, it was the United States of America. So you better believe that I am very damn proud of being a US citizen , and that I would give everything I have for this country (even with every single damn imperfection that it has.) And nothing anyone says will make me feel any different about the United States.

That is why I care so much about seeing the Evangelical cancer eradicated from our politics, our schools, and our laws. That is why I refuse to ever give up on this country.

(07-10-2012 08:49 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  America is so far stuck in the dark ages and yet you'll are so blind to it.

Mr. New Zealander, I know what real lack of freedom feels like. I know what real oppression is. The United States might have it's flaws, but it is a million times better than a lot of places on this planet...including the place I was born. But why let the facts get in the way of some fashionable anti-Americanism, right?

Ozzie, I suggest that you consider being a militant secularist.

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07-10-2012, 12:38 PM
RE: This is why Militant Atheism is necessary
This shit head is in congress? Weeping
...and he'll "continue" to vote based on bronze age superstitious beliefs.
...I just can't get over this stuff. It's mindless stupidity at best.

I'm on board for militantism...

Could call it the "Mock the Christian" campaign.
Just be as disrespectful as possible to anyone, anywhere who mentions god(s).

Need the witty retorts list to stupid Christian saying like:
"Thank God" - "Which One?"
"God Bless you" - "and I bless you"
"As a Christian..." - "As an Atheist..."

Someone start the list or is there already one, if so post it.

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