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28-12-2012, 07:38 PM
RE: Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 07:36 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:34 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  Then I can say "people with cancer should be publicly beaten up - oh i'm not talking about anje specifically" ... It's ridiculous.
That's a false analogy. Whether or not you are a troll depends on the subjective judgment of an individual, whether or not Anjele has cancer depends on the objective tools of modern medicine.
"Fat people should be beaten up publicly- oh, not Girlyman specifically, it's okay, since him being fat is subjective."
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28-12-2012, 07:40 PM
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(28-12-2012 07:38 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:36 PM)Vosur Wrote:  That's a false analogy. Whether or not you are a troll depends on the subjective judgment of an individual, whether or not Anjele has cancer depends on the objective tools of modern medicine.
"Fat people should be beaten up publicly- oh, not Girlyman specifically, it's okay, since him being fat is subjective."

Hey Fuzzy, you need think about stopping this course of discussion. It is unproductive and causing more annoyance than good.

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28-12-2012, 07:41 PM
RE: Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 07:40 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:38 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  "Fat people should be beaten up publicly- oh, not Girlyman specifically, it's okay, since him being fat is subjective."

Hey Fuzzy, you need think about stopping this course of discussion. It is unproductive and causing more annoyance than good.
I didn't bring violence into this, I am just pointing it out.
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28-12-2012, 07:42 PM
RE: Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 07:38 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  "Fat people should be beaten up publicly- oh, not Girlyman specifically, it's okay, since him being fat is subjective."
Correct.

With that aside, thanks for only addressing half of my post.
(28-12-2012 07:36 PM)Vosur Wrote:  Unless GirlyMan has explicitly stated that he thinks that you are a troll, there is no reason for you to think that you were included in his statement.

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28-12-2012, 07:42 PM
Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 07:41 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:40 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  Hey Fuzzy, you need think about stopping this course of discussion. It is unproductive and causing more annoyance than good.
I didn't bring violence into this, I am just pointing it out.

No, you're pointing out that you don't understand nuance. There was no threat of violence. There was the suggestion that you be mocked incessantly, and I'm thinking you're showing yourself deserving of such treatment.

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28-12-2012, 07:48 PM
RE: Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 07:37 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:30 PM)robotworld Wrote:  Just a few cents. Here's my proposed model on post "threat"/troll level.

2 Categories
- Unintentional hurting of a user, whereby the user posts something that he/she does not know that will offend other users
- Intentional hurting of a user, whereby the user posts something that he/she explicitly knows that will offend other users.

There's one problem with such a classification I proposed however, that is how does one know whether the damage is intentional or unintentional? A proposed solution is to give the accused a chance or a platform to justify his/her actions, and/or issue an apology to the people which the post unintentionally/intentionally hurt.

Even so, it's still a case by case basis, depending on the severity of the post, so I propose a possible scale as a guideline.
Level 1: No damage. Zero. None. As clean and harmless as the phrase "rainbow unicorn".
Level 2: Very mild damage. Maybe 1 or 2 users might not agree with a few points. A basic level of controversy.
Level 3: Mild damage. Controversy where you can see two sides against each other over that particular issue. Just disagreeing with each other over that. Nothing wrong with a healthy debate.
Level 4: Moderate damage. Basic ad hominem attacks.
Level 5: Moderate-high damage. Constant badgering and harassing of a user/many users.
Level 6: High damage. Death threats and other serious stuff like that.

A problem to the scale I proposed is evident in Level 4 and Level 5. Is it even considering damaging if the other party does not take offense to the posts at all? What do we classify poking fun at others for laughs? Even so, on which level do we consider it drawing the line? Level 6 is a given, but how about Level 5?

Regarding that, I understand there is no black and white solution, so I propose a voting system of some sort, to determine in general, how the forum views such a member, and what actions do the forum thinks it's appropriate for the user to do (ranging from apologies to banning). The voting system will not used as a definitive system to oust someone out, but a very general opinion on what the forum thinks. The results can either be kept anonymous, in which only a few people can see the results, or the results can be public after the vote is cast.

So there's my opinion Smile

Who do you propose should do all that investigating and judging? Consider
I propose the admins and mods, and probably a few random active members to do the judging, preferably someone not involved in the fiasco such that he/she can see the entire issue with a neutral point of view

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28-12-2012, 07:58 PM
RE: Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 07:30 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:14 PM)Red Tornado Wrote:  Sweetie, by public beatdowns he meant humiliating you by pointing out your flaws on the forums.
He's a big boy, he said what he meant.
You're not a big boy, you misunderstood yet again.

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28-12-2012, 08:02 PM (This post was last modified: 28-12-2012 08:06 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 07:38 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:36 PM)Vosur Wrote:  That's a false analogy. Whether or not you are a troll depends on the subjective judgment of an individual, whether or not Anjele has cancer depends on the objective tools of modern medicine.
"Fat people should be beaten up publicly- oh, not Girlyman specifically, it's okay, since him being fat is subjective."
Yes GirlyMan specifically you scrawny little bitch. Bring my fat ass to the town square, bitch, we can settle objectively who is fat and who is not there. ... Not sure what you're gonna gain by that though. ... Other than getting your scrawny little ass kicked.

I am us and we is me. ... bitches.
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28-12-2012, 08:05 PM
RE: Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 08:02 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:38 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  "Fat people should be beaten up publicly- oh, not Girlyman specifically, it's okay, since him being fat is subjective."
Yes GirlyMan specifically you scrawny little bitch. Bring my fat ass to the town square, bitch, we can settle objectively who is fat and who is not there. ... Not sure what you're gonna gain by that though.
Hey that'd be like a mountain picking on a stick! Go easy on the little guy.

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28-12-2012, 08:08 PM (This post was last modified: 28-12-2012 08:11 PM by FZUMedia.)
RE: Threat to out me from FZUMedia via messages
(28-12-2012 08:02 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(28-12-2012 07:38 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  "Fat people should be beaten up publicly- oh, not Girlyman specifically, it's okay, since him being fat is subjective."
Yes GirlyMan specifically you scrawny little bitch. Bring my fat ass to the town square, bitch, we can settle objectively who is fat and who is not there. ... Not sure what you're gonna gain by that though. ... Other than getting your scrawny little ass kicked.
Don't need to, wait 10-30 years and you will die from heart failure. Joke's on you in the long term.
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