To be fair, he's black and the person doing the shooting is a cop. So it's ok.
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21-07-2016, 09:33 PM (This post was last modified: 22-07-2016 06:47 AM by Anjele.)
RE: To be fair, he's black and the person doing the shooting is a cop. So it's ok.
(21-07-2016 09:31 PM)Fireball Wrote:  
(21-07-2016 09:04 PM)Anjele Wrote:  http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bullet-...li=BBnb7Kz

Oops...cop meant to shoot the autistic man in and effort to protect the man who was actually shot.

Good call by a 'decorated' officer. Facepalm

On Monday, a North Miami police officer shot Kinsey, 47, after, police said, the officer mistakenly believed that Kinsey was going to be killed by the 23-year-old autistic man playing with a toy truck who was sitting on the ground next to him. Rivera said the officer feared the autistic man had a weapon.

"Ima run this toy truck up one side of your head and down the other until you bleed to death!" FFS, here is yet another PO who should be serving "fries with that".

In the cop's defense...trucks have been dangerous lately. Facepalm Facepalm

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21-07-2016, 10:22 PM
RE: To be fair, he's black and the person doing the shooting is a cop. So it's ok.
(21-07-2016 09:33 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(21-07-2016 09:31 PM)Fireball Wrote:  "Ima run this toy truck up one side of your head and down the other until you bleed to death!" FFS, here is yet another PO who should be serving "fries with that".

In the cops defense...trucks have been dangerous lately. Facepalm Facepalm

Yes At the very least, there should be some serious retreading of that officer. Evaluation of the scene was quite lacking. I realize that police officers have been having some shit thrown their way these days, more so than in times past. But dayamn, this is pretty egregious. I'm really happy that the attendant didn't suffer more seriously, or even die from that officer's lack of judgment. Any one of those three rounds could have ended up in the guy's head.
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22-07-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: To be fair, he's black and the person doing the shooting is a cop. So it's ok.
I don't think there was malice in the actions of this officer, just ignorance coupled with a lack of sufficient training in mental health situations, which is common in most police forces. They're trained to neutralize threats, either to themselves or to others, and not necessarily to de-escalate at all, let alone to do so in the face of an aggravating condition such as mental health. The officers were under the impression, from the moment of the 911 call, that the object was a gun, or that there was a gun in addition to the truck. It seems more than plausible that the guy thought he could "wing" the patient and save the situation, and that the orders given to the man with his hands up was to ensure his safety by making him more easily visible to the cops-- to neutralize him as a threat-- followed by a missed shot in an attempt to save him.

It is, then, a tragic accident-- tragic not because of its reflection on the state of our militarized or otherwise "bad" police policies, or because of the autism, but because it could have been avoided with better training and tactics. I hope it results in people seeing a pressing need for training in de-escalation, with particular care to the needs of people who are mentally ill. It should not be a death sentence in the USA. Not even by accident.

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22-07-2016, 06:41 AM
RE: To be fair, he's black and the person doing the shooting is a cop. So it's ok.
How can Police fire their weapon without visible proof of a firearm?

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22-07-2016, 06:49 AM
RE: To be fair, he's black and the person doing the shooting is a cop. So it's ok.
(22-07-2016 06:41 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  How can Police fire their weapon without visible proof of a firearm?

Because the rules of engagement are based on the fact that action is significantly faster than reaction regardless of how much training you've had. Waiting for visible proof would often be too late, so instead you have to make decisions based off perceived intent. In any case, the human mind is a poor data taking device, and mistakes will always be inevitable until we're ruled by robots.

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22-07-2016, 07:04 AM
RE: To be fair, he's black and the person doing the shooting is a cop. So it's ok.
Muffsy,

It's all about the training.

Did you notice how the cops were hiding behind things?

Shields, armour and weapons... it's all very gladiatorial.

Cops in the more civilised commonwealth counties don't have all that so they have evolved sharper wits.

Think about the difference between Murikan roolz football vs. Aussie Rules or Rugby Union or League... either you can hide behind people as you run in your armour plating or you need to be brave and think quickly.

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