To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
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25-05-2017, 12:45 PM
To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
--- or is this something confined to the US?

I can't find any reference at all to political polarization outside the US after ten minutes with google so perhaps it is. How about it, our international correspondents, what're your observations?

The US press is filled with analysis of why and how much, but all of it involves a planet containing only the south half of North America. I think a broader view could be helpful.
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25-05-2017, 12:51 PM
RE: To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
Yep, you should see what's going on in Brazil right now. Or how it was in Bulgaria right after the fall of communism.

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25-05-2017, 01:54 PM
RE: To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
... It's because it's so easy. There's nothing wrong with us. It's all them. Every single one of them. They're the problem. Not us. I mean sometimes we do nasty things to them, but they deserve it, and anyway if we didn't do it to them they'd do it to us. So we gotta do it first. QE fucking D.

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25-05-2017, 02:01 PM
RE: To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
It's the likes of Zuckerberg and to a lesser degree Biz Stone and Jack Dorsey, who brought it along with their creations. People no longer look for serious news sources, but stew in their hate filled bubble served to them by social media and so called youtubers, who are as far removed from real journalism as the sun. That's perceived as being the real news, as opposed to the establishment issuing fake news.

That's a global phenomenon and just like nuclear weapons, the Jeanny's out of the bottle.

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25-05-2017, 02:02 PM
To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
Polarization is quite the issue in Poland with 1/3 of population being pro authoritarian (fascist?) Law and Justice party. If I'm not mistaken Guardian had some pieces about it.

Main polarizing thing would be history and what one think about current nationalist trend in politics. Issues like abortion also aren't something on which people agree.

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25-05-2017, 02:28 PM
To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
(25-05-2017 12:45 PM)Airportkid Wrote:  --- or is this something confined to the US?

I think it's been like that worldwide throughout history. It will never change until humans evolve into aliens.
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25-05-2017, 02:39 PM
RE: To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
Two fronts of major polarisation in Australia.

Political parties: Labor; left wing, working man; socialist*; union-dominated. Liberal: conservative; wealthy; right wing; capitalist; corporate-led.

And of course the blue-collar "have nots" and the silver-tail "haves"—whereby the latter keep the former dumbed down, social security dependent, ill-educated, culturally deficient; home mortgage-bound; and eating take-away food in front of the TV every second night in their trakkie dacks and moccies.

—Really snowballed since the Aussie recession of the late 80s/early 90s.

* supposedly but not actually

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25-05-2017, 03:02 PM
RE: To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
(25-05-2017 12:45 PM)Airportkid Wrote:  --- or is this something confined to the US?

I can't find any reference at all to political polarization outside the US after ten minutes with google so perhaps it is. How about it, our international correspondents, what're your observations?

The US press is filled with analysis of why and how much, but all of it involves a planet containing only the south half of North America. I think a broader view could be helpful.

I don't know, Brexit did a pretty good job of polarizing Great Britain, and I detected just a wee bit of polarization in the recent French election as well. I don't think it's confined to America.

Also, look at Iraq. We were determined to introduce them to democracy, but how does democracy work in a country with three groups (Sunni, Shiite, and Kurds) who hate each other's guts?
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25-05-2017, 03:29 PM
RE: To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
(25-05-2017 12:45 PM)Airportkid Wrote:  --- or is this something confined to the US?

I can't find any reference at all to political polarization outside the US after ten minutes with google so perhaps it is. How about it, our international correspondents, what're your observations?

The US press is filled with analysis of why and how much, but all of it involves a planet containing only the south half of North America. I think a broader view could be helpful.

It might have something to do with the US hogging the media and search engine results. That aside, the polarization today is definitely more stark than the same from as recent as 8 years ago. Something happened to the Republicans when Obama became President.

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25-05-2017, 05:03 PM
RE: To the 95% of humanity that ISN'T USA, is political polarization an issue
In Quebec, a polarisation between a progressive vs conservative movement is extremely difficult since our major political parties are divided not by a progressive vs conservative line but by a federalist and independantist line. There are progressives, multiculturalists, nationalist, conservatives in both all formation. Its quite a big issue for the electora since Quebec independance has fallen rather low in terms of political priority, making the divide a structural political problem. Parties no longer hold positions relevant to the population. In Canada, the Liberal are will surf on their current popularity for a while and will certainly remain in control of the parliement for another 4 to 8 years while the Conservatives find themselves a new leader and gain back some traction. There isn't much polarisation between parties right now.

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