To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
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06-01-2017, 08:58 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
(06-01-2017 08:39 AM)jennybee Wrote:  Well if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing Hobo

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06-01-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
Yes. God created sin. We are imperfect beings meant to sin. That is the whole reason for salvation.

Wtf kind of question is this anyway?

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06-01-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
Oh Borg, Borg, Borg. What the hell are we going to do with you anyway.

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06-01-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
(06-01-2017 09:38 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Oh Borg, Borg, Borg. What the hell are we going to do with you anyway.

He's clearly not assimilating here.
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06-01-2017, 09:59 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
There is no sin. There is only pain.




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06-01-2017, 10:07 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
(06-01-2017 04:39 AM)theBorg Wrote:  The sins prior to baptism are cleaned away by the Savior. The sins after the baptism are subject to confession in the True Church (you must tell these sins to a Priest in the real building with the Holy Cross above).

"Sins" in the sense of bad behaviour cannot be cleansed by your silly beliefs.

The only way to fix bad behaviour is to apologize to the people whom you hurt, make material compensation as required (for instance, paying to repair or replace something you broke or stole), and not doing the same or similar things again to them or anyone else. Until you have learned from your mistakes, fixed them, and corrected your behaviour, nothing has changed.

Sins against gods are just nonsense. A god that can be sinned against is too weak to worship.
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06-01-2017, 10:33 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
Define "reasonable"? Because quite frankly, depending on what that means, this entire line of thought is a theological minefield that makes the landmine filled Korean DMZ look like a lovely stroll in the park.

(06-01-2017 04:39 AM)theBorg Wrote:  The sins prior to baptism are cleaned away by the Savior. The sins after the baptism are subject to confession in the True Church (you must tell these sins to a Priest in the real building with the Holy Cross above).

However, the sin prior to baptism is dependent on the age of the person baptized. If it's an infant, it would just be the Original Sin, because they're below the age of accountability/responsibility/reason. If it's an adult, there would be a further multitude. If we speak about confession to a priest, based in the ideas promulgated in church councils based upon John 20:23, then it's a tacit acknowledgement that it would be reasonable, in a way for us to sin, because our human nature means that we will again due to our own imperfections. If that's the case, then we need to do as Saint Paul says and work out our salvation with fear and trembling (Philippians 2:12).

However, if you're going at this from the direction of most Protestants or non-denoms, the idea of sin and forgiveness can be far different. Especially with those who subscribe to Once Saved, Always Saved theology.

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06-01-2017, 10:45 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
(06-01-2017 09:38 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Oh Borg, Borg, Borg. What the hell are we going to do with you anyway.

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06-01-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
(06-01-2017 10:45 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 09:38 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Oh Borg, Borg, Borg. What the hell are we going to do with you anyway.

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Yes
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06-01-2017, 11:05 AM
RE: To theists only: is it reasonable for a theist to sin?
(06-01-2017 08:39 AM)jennybee Wrote:  Well if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing Hobo

So really, you should sin?

That makes sense. Yes
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