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02-12-2013, 03:33 PM
RE: To train up a child
(27-11-2013 10:20 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(27-11-2013 02:49 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Anjele, I've preached publicly for over 20 years. Mainly on college and university campuses.

I think I'd rather have a rapist loose on a college campus than the likes of you.


Quote: Each person who self-identified as a born again Christian presented themselves with class, tact, and self-respect--enough to show respect to others.
In other words, the brainwashed sheeple acted like the brainwashed sheeple they are.

Quote: The atheists all had cures words and invective and ad homs and etc.

Meaning the people who can think for themselves and who see through your fairytales and superstitions rightly told you that you are full of shit.

Taq:

As you are someone who personally has experienced abuse, I'm surprised you'd ever write anything like "rapists are better on a college campus than Christian preachers like you".

I don't know how to reply to that comment. I go to campus and offer love, help, information and healthy alternatives. Abstinence, Christian marriage, serving others above self, etc. A rapist?

You should see someone for counseling. I'd be glad to recommend someone in your area.
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02-12-2013, 03:35 PM
RE: To train up a child
(02-12-2013 03:30 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  What percentage of religious persons have a born again, real relationship with Jesus? (Few)

Wrong.
The answer is "none".
Jebus is a figment of your/their imagination. Nothing more.

Show us the polling data for all your assertions, or STFU, okey dokey ?
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02-12-2013, 03:36 PM
RE: To train up a child
(27-11-2013 10:23 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(27-11-2013 10:17 PM)Concerned Wrote:  I have some friends that have used the books methods and they have produced wonderful results. I have never personally used the books but looking back now I wish I had bought a copy.

You are aware of the dozen children that have been killed by parents following the advice in this book, yes?

Children are to be spanked and sometimes, cry. Not spanked until they die! These are sick, sick people who need help who would harm a child like that. I'm sure we can likewise name 100 good things people abuse until harm results. Cough medicine for alcoholics. A little medical weed to become a lifetime dropout, right?
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02-12-2013, 03:39 PM
RE: To train up a child
(28-11-2013 02:48 AM)sporehux Wrote:  Taq

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02-12-2013, 03:40 PM
RE: To train up a child
(02-12-2013 03:20 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  
(27-11-2013 04:44 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  You are being intentionally obtuse. Pornography is acting. It is not real life.
Sexual acts between consenting adults is not comparable to child abuse.

Real life porn actors have spread communicable disease and died of horrible addictions. Quite a number of failed actors and teen runaways have wound up in porn. It's not a safe lifestyle. It's an assumed risk as with being a stuntman or fireman. The difference is also a moral difference, a real difference.
You only have the right to assess the risk to your own life and the lives of your children. You only have your own morals. You cannot choose the morals of someone else.
It's like saying an adult choosing not to wear a seatbelt in the backseat of a car is the same as a parent choosing not to put their child in a car seat.

Adults get to make their own choices regarding their own lives and if they choose to do something potentially dangerous, or something you find immoral that is their own business and no one else's. A child is at the mercy of the adults in their lives and if an adult chooses to abuse a child that is everyone's business. Everyone imo has a responsibility to look out for the children who they come in contact with. Say if I happened to be your neighbor when your kids were young, it would have been imo my responsibility to report you to CPS.
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02-12-2013, 03:42 PM
RE: To train up a child
(01-12-2013 08:56 AM)Cathym112 Wrote:  Since PJ is all about being calm while hiting...since it's Christmas, I ran across a quote from Bing Crosby's son, Gary. Where he speaks about the calmness...

"I dropped my pants, pulled down my undershorts and bent over. Then he went at it with the belt dotted with metal studs he kept reserved for the occasion. Quite dispassionately, without the least display of emotion or loss of self-control, he whacked away until he drew the first drop of blood, and then he stopped. It normally took between twelve and fifteen strokes. I counted them off one by one and hoped I would bleed early. To keep my mind off the hurt, I would conjure up different schemes to get back at him, ways to murder him.
—Gary Crosby, Going My Own Way, 1983 "

Crosby also had a famous temper. In this instance, he's being sadistic. Is it possible that spanking a child benefits them and is not the habit of a pure sadist? You said I'm narrow minded on a recent post--be open-minded here.
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02-12-2013, 03:44 PM
RE: To train up a child
(02-12-2013 03:40 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  
(02-12-2013 03:20 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Real life porn actors have spread communicable disease and died of horrible addictions. Quite a number of failed actors and teen runaways have wound up in porn. It's not a safe lifestyle. It's an assumed risk as with being a stuntman or fireman. The difference is also a moral difference, a real difference.
You only have the right to assess the risk to your own life and the lives of your children. You only have your own morals. You cannot choose the morals of someone else.
It's like saying an adult choosing not to wear a seatbelt in the backseat of a car is the same as a parent choosing not to put their child in a car seat.

Adults get to make their own choices regarding their own lives and if they choose to do something potentially dangerous, or something you find immoral that is their own business and no one else's. A child is at the mercy of the adults in their lives and if an adult chooses to abuse a child that is everyone's business. Everyone imo has a responsibility to look out for the children who they come in contact with. Say if I happened to be your neighbor when your kids were young, it would have been imo my responsibility to report you to CPS.

An adult cannot choose the morals of a child, but can enforce moral standards for a child. I wonder if you would have reported me to CPS after meeting my children and visiting my home...?
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02-12-2013, 03:45 PM
RE: To train up a child
(02-12-2013 03:30 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  As I've written spanking is like alcohol, sexual desire or anything else that is good in and of itself unless taken too far. There's nothing wrong with a glass of wine or two--there's something terribly wrong with destroying a family or business with alcohol.

Ok seriously, this comparison is exactly why spanking should be between consenting adults only and never between parent and child. Yuck
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02-12-2013, 03:50 PM
RE: To train up a child
(02-12-2013 03:44 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  
(02-12-2013 03:40 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  You only have the right to assess the risk to your own life and the lives of your children. You only have your own morals. You cannot choose the morals of someone else.
It's like saying an adult choosing not to wear a seatbelt in the backseat of a car is the same as a parent choosing not to put their child in a car seat.

Adults get to make their own choices regarding their own lives and if they choose to do something potentially dangerous, or something you find immoral that is their own business and no one else's. A child is at the mercy of the adults in their lives and if an adult chooses to abuse a child that is everyone's business. Everyone imo has a responsibility to look out for the children who they come in contact with. Say if I happened to be your neighbor when your kids were young, it would have been imo my responsibility to report you to CPS.

An adult cannot choose the morals of a child, but can enforce moral standards for a child. I wonder if you would have reported me to CPS after meeting my children and visiting my home...?

Well I can't say for certain because I was just a young kid myself back then. If I was my age now (24) then yes. 100% yes. I don't care how "happy" or well behaved a child is(seems) if I know the parents are committing what is legally considered child abuse I absolutely will report them.
As for enforcing moral standards on children I think to extent it can be necessary, but for the most part I really like to teach my kids to think and create their own morals. Kids are so much smarter than some parents give them credit for. I try really hard to guide my children rather than force or enforce.
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02-12-2013, 03:50 PM (This post was last modified: 02-12-2013 03:55 PM by Cathym112.)
RE: To train up a child
(02-12-2013 03:14 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  To be specific, you'd likely not choose that industry because if you were a female starlet, you'd:

*have sex with as many as hundreds of strangers in a year and on camera, while people watching, directing, etc. are lusting or even masturbating to your performance

*need STD testing monthly

*be aged prematurely

*be an unlikely candidate for normative love or sex relationships off camera

*experience vaginal and anal tears and etc.

All I'm saying is the "it's for them, not for me" is stepping aside from the fact that it's harmful to the participants and to the porn addicted.

1) there is nothing wrong with getting STD testing monthly. thats a smart, and RESPONSIBLE thing to do. I get STD testing yearly. Why? Because even though I am in a monogamous relationship with my husband - I'm not naive. Its possible he wasn't monogamous with me.

2) Provide data that having sex with multiple partners "Ages you prematurely" You making shit up again?

3) Provide data that ALL porn stars experience vaginal and anal tears anymore than a rowdy sexual interaction between monogamous partners?

4) You assume there is something inherently wrong with having sex while other people watch? Its called voyeurism. You watch your wife touch her body sexually? Ding! Thats voyeurism. the bible SAYS NOTHING about voyeurism. And again, you seem to think that these females (and males - I don't know why you excluded the males from these points), do not enjoy their profession. I have a news flash for you. Not everyone WANTS to be in a monogamous relationship. There is a reason that swingers clubs are packed. You do not get to dictate YOUR moral to THEM. In consensual adult relationships, doing what adults do, doesn't harm anyone.

If there are testimonials that a porn star got out of the porn industry and hated it…and therefore all porn is bad, then guess what? There are testimonials of people who get out of their religion/cult because they hated it too, therefore all religion must be bad. Whats your expression? Oh yeah. Checkmate.Laughat

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