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06-12-2013, 02:44 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 02:16 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  
(06-12-2013 02:01 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  So I'm offering to appear on camera to explain my methods of child training or even to have my children appear should they wish to and you have nothing else to say?

And you have concluded that porn participation is okay, apparently, and you'd do it. Is that right?

It is hard enough not to vomit while reading the shit you spew. I certainly won't be watching any of your videos.
Porn participation is fine for those who wish to participate. I wouldn't do it, but I don't care if other adults do.

I've asked before and I'll ask again, "Why not?" Why wouldn't you do it? You see, this is the rubric on abortion as well--since we're talking about sexual mores and kids here. "I'd never have an abortion, but others should be able to do so..."
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06-12-2013, 02:48 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 02:27 PM)guitar_nut Wrote:  
(05-12-2013 01:57 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  So let's take it back with two questions no one has answered:

1) Would you appear as a porn performer?

Oh fine. No. I also wouldn't go to church and pray to a god, or lash a toddler across the back of the legs as it tried to climb the stairs. Reconcile these facts as you will.

(05-12-2013 01:57 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  If not, what do you really think about the people who are expressing their freedoms while engaging in taboo behavior?

Taboo to who? Obviously not everybody. At least you admit they're freedoms. For the record, I also wouldn't be a surgeon, a B.A.S.E. jumper, a cop, or a schoolteacher. Music is my calling, just like porn is for others. I can accept that.

1) You are comparing someone who goes beyond prostitution (complying to the sexual whims of strangers) to doing so in a very public manner (pornography) to someone who disciplines and trains their children--including not to do things like porn...

2) I get the music thing. I sing and teach vocal music to others. But you're comparing that beautiful hobby to porn (which is prostitution) being a calling for others. How would you respond if your child said music is their calling? How you respond if they said they were called to prostitute themselves?

This is the post-Christian world of madness, if you ask me. The end really is near.
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06-12-2013, 02:56 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 02:44 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  I've asked before and I'll ask again, "Why not?" Why wouldn't you do it? You see, this is the rubric on abortion as well--since we're talking about sexual mores and kids here. "I'd never have an abortion, but others should be able to do so..."

Exactly. For example, I wouldn't have prevented Savita Halappanavar from her right to a life-saving abortion.

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06-12-2013, 03:09 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 02:48 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  1) You are comparing someone who goes beyond prostitution (complying to the sexual whims of strangers) to doing so in a very public manner (pornography) to someone who disciplines and trains their children--including not to do things like porn...

We just have different outlooks. I see consenting sex with an adult being sold to other adults as a freedom I chose not to participate in. I see striking a toddler across the back of the legs as another freedom I chose not to participate in. Finally, I see going to a church and thanking a god who is 'murderous in a loving way' as a freedom I chose not to participate in. In my experience, the striking of children and the bible caused more harm than porn ever could. Kinda makes your arguments seem impotent when you toss them my way (pun intended).

(06-12-2013 02:48 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  2) I get the music thing. I sing and teach vocal music to others. But you're comparing that beautiful hobby to porn (which is prostitution) being a calling for others. How would you respond if your child said music is their calling? How you respond if they said they were called to prostitute themselves?

I'd say 'don't bring your work home with you.' I'd also tell them that music is a poor way to make a living and to pick a plan B.

(06-12-2013 02:48 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  This is the post-Christian world of madness, if you ask me. The end really is near.

According to your kind, It's been right around the corner for the past 2000 years or so.

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06-12-2013, 03:50 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 02:44 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  
(06-12-2013 02:16 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  It is hard enough not to vomit while reading the shit you spew. I certainly won't be watching any of your videos.
Porn participation is fine for those who wish to participate. I wouldn't do it, but I don't care if other adults do.

I've asked before and I'll ask again, "Why not?" Why wouldn't you do it? You see, this is the rubric on abortion as well--since we're talking about sexual mores and kids here. "I'd never have an abortion, but others should be able to do so..."

Umm because I don't want to...
I'm not going to discuss abortion here. You can create an abortion thread if you would like to talk about that. This thread has enough topics as it is. The porn one is easy. I have no interest or desire to be in porn. It isn't my thing. I want to be a sentencing advocate or a forensic profiler.
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06-12-2013, 04:58 PM
RE: To train up a child
(05-12-2013 10:03 PM)sporehux Wrote:  
(05-12-2013 09:25 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  How is this thread still going. I added PJ to my ignore list. I must say, it's much more peaceful now!!!

Is ignore just for PM's or all posts ?

All posts. Unless someone else quotes him, then I'll see it.

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06-12-2013, 07:01 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 04:58 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(05-12-2013 10:03 PM)sporehux Wrote:  Is ignore just for PM's or all posts ?

All posts. Unless someone else quotes him, then I'll see it.

I truly do Heart the ignore feature. I just wish it applied to threads those ignored boneheads started too. Drinking Beverage


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06-12-2013, 07:11 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 04:58 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(05-12-2013 10:03 PM)sporehux Wrote:  Is ignore just for PM's or all posts ?

All posts. Unless someone else quotes him, then I'll see it.
Oops sorry. I will try to stop doing that.
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06-12-2013, 07:16 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 07:11 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  
(06-12-2013 04:58 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  All posts. Unless someone else quotes him, then I'll see it.
Oops sorry. I will try to stop doing that.

I don't trust pj and wouldn't put it passed him to edit his previous posts and claim he didn't,say what he said. Quoting him prevents that. Drinking Beverage


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06-12-2013, 07:23 PM
RE: To train up a child
(06-12-2013 07:16 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(06-12-2013 07:11 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  Oops sorry. I will try to stop doing that.

I don't trust pj and wouldn't put it passed him to edit his previous posts and claim he didn't,say what he said. Quoting him prevents that. Drinking Beverage

I don't trust anyone who would hit a child up to 40 times with a PVC pipe.
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