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31-07-2017, 09:42 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(31-07-2017 07:36 PM)YourADhere Wrote:  Why is it the hot one's are always dumb as fuck?

My wife is hot enough to melt rock hard, uh, men. She has a degree in Physics, same as me. No, you may not have pictures. Tongue
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31-07-2017, 10:10 PM (This post was last modified: 31-07-2017 10:16 PM by epronovost.)
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(31-07-2017 07:36 PM)YourADhere Wrote:  Why is it the hot one's are always dumb as fuck?

Actually, beautiful people are more intelligent on average than normal or ugly people. Some say it's linked to higher degree of self-confidence/ lower social anxiety, a link between physical beauty and general health or the so called halo effect where people who are beautiful are more easily considered skilled and/or virtuous and vice versa.

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31-07-2017, 11:22 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(31-07-2017 09:07 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 07:55 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  But there isn't any way to exactly calculate what each and every individual consents to. What if an individual doesn't want National Defense, or roads, or any services? You have to have democracy and majority rule at some point just out of practicality, with protections for individual rights of course.


I thought I made it clear that the basis of limits is established in the US Constitution.

I went back and re-read yes it's clear enough. I agree in principle. Money should be collected and spent no more and no less than as dictated by the constitution. The problem is in practice; it's difficult to determine the exact starting point where justified spending ends and what you call "stealing" begins. And I believe we would be in the same ballpark on a lot of sample expenditures- proper reliable equipment for the troops, check, a free car for everyone, no. These two examples fall specifically in and not-in the constitution. But do you believe honest people can disagree about a grey area in the middle? We elect reps to determine the spending in the grey area (and yes they mostly fuck it up), I just can't accept that Hitcher70 or jerrymcmasters or any other individual has it pegged precisely where spending for "provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States" begins and ends.
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31-07-2017, 11:28 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(31-07-2017 08:40 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  It's not remotely feasible to think the taxpayers should carry the burden of every healthcare need of every citizen.

But it's okay to expect them to forfeit trillions of dollars that could be remarkably effective to that degree, in order to fund a military complex that kills innocent civilians on a mass scale? Consider

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31-07-2017, 11:34 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(31-07-2017 11:28 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 08:40 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  It's not remotely feasible to think the taxpayers should carry the burden of every healthcare need of every citizen.

But it's okay to expect them to forfeit trillions of dollars that could be remarkably effective to that degree, in order to fund a military complex that kills innocent civilians on a mass scale? Consider

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01-08-2017, 12:00 AM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(31-07-2017 10:10 PM)epronovost Wrote:  Actually, beautiful people are more intelligent on average than normal or ugly people.


Some citation would be muchly appreciated Drinking Beverage

Addendum: As well as subjective criteria according to which we get to divide people into beautiful, normal and ugly.

Addendum B: As well as subjective criteria according to which we measure intelligence. *Other* than IQ tests.

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01-08-2017, 12:56 AM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
This woman, at age 24, has finished university is working as a political commenter (looks like thats what she loves...politics and talking about politics) at least since 2014 and is still on her parents healthcare....and then publicly rants against this healthcare?

How about she gets decent job, you know, something productive (to the society at large), pays her taxes as well as her own fucking healthcare? Consider ...you know, instead of being a burden to her parents healthcare and society and then ranting about the system she takes advantage of. I still dont buy for a second that she is doing this out of principles. If she had principles, she wouldnt live on her parents healthcare and would take care of her own.

She is nothing but a leech and makes money (or career ) with complains about the system that allows her being a leech. Fits very well to the trumpian age.

Disgusting...and in 25y nobody will be talking about her looks. Drinking Beverage but she is probably still a leech.

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01-08-2017, 01:03 AM (This post was last modified: 01-08-2017 01:09 AM by epronovost.)
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 12:00 AM)Vera Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 10:10 PM)epronovost Wrote:  Actually, beautiful people are more intelligent on average than normal or ugly people.


Some citation would be muchly appreciated Drinking Beverage

Addendum: As well as subjective criteria according to which we get to divide people into beautiful, normal and ugly.

Addendum B: As well as subjective criteria according to which we measure intelligence. *Other* than IQ tests.

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.10...33.9921573

This one is relatively good as it provides a good methodological framework and a pretty nuanced conclusion (not establishing a clear correlation between beauty and intelligence) on the entire issue that struck me as sound.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...9604000352

This one produce similar results, but is of much poorer quality and tend to fall quickly into an over simplification of the concept of beauty, socialisation, success and intelligence. Doctor Kanazawa is the main supporter of that theory and has made several research on the subject, all with the same kind of defects. Because of this, I consider him to be a very bad source and the kind of scientist who dope his results in an effort to appear more groud breaking. Thus consider, I consider this research to be so bad that it disprove what it attempts to prove. I included it because the man is very productive on the subject and it would have been dishonest to brush him under the rug.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...9608000172

this proves the opposite than the second paper (and soundly demolish Kanazawa work on the subject), but does mention that there is certain correlation between academic success and beauty.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article...ne.0148284

This study explain the principle of the halo effect that would present the idea that beautiful people are more intelligent on average than normal people due to positive bias toward them.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1...7202282009

This study also support the idea of a link between intelligence and beauty, but attribute it to more than the halo effect and more strongly with on general health and overwhelmingly positive socialisation.

In all cases, IQ and academic success were used to qualify and quantify intelligence (despite their weaknesses as intelligence is of course known to be more fluid than that). Beauty was always assessed by a panel of judge of both sex. The link between intelligence and beauty is always relatively small and isn't necessarily real as it might very well be explained by the halo effect, but some tend to think there might be other factor in addition that gives a certain credibility to that link. Does that help a bit?

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01-08-2017, 05:07 AM (This post was last modified: 01-08-2017 05:40 AM by Ace.)
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(31-07-2017 07:27 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  Additionally, the ACA is a failure as a solution for the problems regarding cost and access for healthcare. I'd prefer they just leave the ACA alone to die it's eventual death as costs continue to rise along with premiums. All while coverage and access dwindles.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4571845/
http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2016/07/21...you-think/
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion...83904.html

Allow for a public option and the govt to negotiate lower prices and healthcare costs will drop
And health issuance companies spend 80% of their premiums on providing care only because the ACA mandates them to spend at least that much, before they spent far less




https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/0...llion-2010
CEO's of the 70 largest Healthcare companies pulled in nearly $10 billion for their collective salary in over 7 years even with the 80/20 rule from the ACA..... in other words healthcare companies are raising prices because they are greedy otherwise if prices were rising because costs were actually rising these CEO's wouldn't be making so much money.

Also the idea that taxes are theft is patently ludacrous, throughout history there has NEVER been a civilized society that has managed to last long that didn't have some form of collectively shared burden forced on its citizens.

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01-08-2017, 06:19 AM (This post was last modified: 01-08-2017 06:33 AM by Hitcher70.)
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(31-07-2017 09:18 PM)epronovost Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 08:40 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  No. A healthy citizen isn't a matter of national welfare. And I have no idea what you're on about with "Killing and threatening foreigners". Look up the word defense.

Welfare:

1) the health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group.

2) statutory procedure or social effort designed to promote the basic physical and material well-being of people in need.

3) financial support given to people in need.

Synonyms: well-being, health, comfort, security, safety, protection, prosperity, success, fortune; More.

It seems like healthy citizen is exactly what welfare means.

Defense:

1) the action of defending from or resisting attack or threat.

That seems to involve killing and threatening foreigners when applied to a national level.

If welfare of the nation includes all of that...I'd like a new Dodge Challenger and you should pay for it. And you defense does not mean killing and threatening foreigners. It means defending against threats that are foreign and domestic.
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