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01-08-2017, 03:21 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:10 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:00 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  @Hitcher70

Asking a poster if he is Stalin when disagrement is about medical services policy? Right wing sets a new low it seems.

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I wasn't asking him if he's Stalin when disagreeing about his "medical services policy".

I was asking him he's Stalin when he said.... "the top income earners don't spend a larger percent of their incomes as compared to the middle and working class simply due to the fact that there is a limit to the quantity of a commodity's that anyone will buy meaning money stagnates rather than circulating" and presented it as reasoning to take away individual's monies.

It's clearly Socialist.

It's clearly socialist? Everything is clear now: socialism equal marxism-leninism and that leads to asking if another poster is being genocidal tyrant willing to starve his own people. Right indeed hits a new low.

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01-08-2017, 03:24 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:20 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:15 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  There is a huge difference between "socialist" and Stalin ... in case you didn't know that.


Not all socialists are Stalins but all Stalins are socialists?

If you're in agreement with his comment then...

Stalin was a communist dictator. Communism and socialism are related, but not the same. And even the average communist is much better than a mass murderer like Stalin. I don't necessarily agree with everything Ace said, but that's beside the point. Nothing he said deserves a low blow like comparing him to Stalin. Socialists generally don't have millions of people murdered.
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01-08-2017, 03:28 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:21 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:10 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  I wasn't asking him if he's Stalin when disagreeing about his "medical services policy".

I was asking him he's Stalin when he said.... "the top income earners don't spend a larger percent of their incomes as compared to the middle and working class simply due to the fact that there is a limit to the quantity of a commodity's that anyone will buy meaning money stagnates rather than circulating" and presented it as reasoning to take away individual's monies.

It's clearly Socialist.

It's clearly socialist? Everything is clear now: socialism equal marxism-leninism and that leads to asking if another poster is being genocidal tyrant willing to starve his own people. Right indeed hits a new low.

Well...certainly not in ever facet but certainly in collectivism.
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01-08-2017, 03:29 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:24 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:20 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  Not all socialists are Stalins but all Stalins are socialists?

If you're in agreement with his comment then...

Stalin was a communist dictator. Communism and socialism are related, but not the same. And even the average communist is much better than a mass murderer like Stalin. I don't necessarily agree with everything Ace said, but that's beside the point. Nothing he said deserves a low blow like comparing him to Stalin. Socialists generally don't have millions of people murdered.


Simmer down. It's a joke. He made a distinctly socialist remark and I said 'Stalin is that you? ' he can rant and F bomb but I make a sarcastic remark and it's now a federal crime.

Ace, I am sorry I asked you if you were Stalin.

There.
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01-08-2017, 03:32 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:28 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:21 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  It's clearly socialist? Everything is clear now: socialism equal marxism-leninism and that leads to asking if another poster is being genocidal tyrant willing to starve his own people. Right indeed hits a new low.

Well...certainly not in ever facet but certainly in collectivism.

You're kind of missing the point here. Do you think it would be perfectly OK to call any German person "Hitler" just because Hitler was German? If not, maybe you should back off on the "Stalin" crap.
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01-08-2017, 03:32 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:24 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:20 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  Not all socialists are Stalins but all Stalins are socialists?

If you're in agreement with his comment then...

Stalin was a communist dictator. Communism and socialism are related, but not the same. And even the average communist is much better than a mass murderer like Stalin. I don't necessarily agree with everything Ace said, but that's beside the point. Nothing he said deserves a low blow like comparing him to Stalin. Socialists generally don't have millions of people murdered.

Communist as in political communism* - whatever Stalin created didn't had much in common with Marx communism, that is withering of state and people living fullfiling and rational live without oppression.

*"Real" one never was - Soviet Union ended with what Brezhnev called really existing socialism - increasingly deideologized authoritarian state where Marxism was just ornament.

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01-08-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:29 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:24 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Stalin was a communist dictator. Communism and socialism are related, but not the same. And even the average communist is much better than a mass murderer like Stalin. I don't necessarily agree with everything Ace said, but that's beside the point. Nothing he said deserves a low blow like comparing him to Stalin. Socialists generally don't have millions of people murdered.


Simmer down. It's a joke. He made a distinctly socialist remark and I said 'Stalin is that you? ' he can rant and F bomb but I make a sarcastic remark and it's now a federal crime.

Ace, I am sorry I asked you if you were Stalin.

There.

Not buying it. You could have just as easily said "Obama is that you?" (although Obama isn't really a socialist either). It would be prudent to refrain from comparing people to mass murderers in your "sarcastic remarks".
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01-08-2017, 03:45 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:35 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:29 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  Simmer down. It's a joke. He made a distinctly socialist remark and I said 'Stalin is that you? ' he can rant and F bomb but I make a sarcastic remark and it's now a federal crime.

Ace, I am sorry I asked you if you were Stalin.

There.

Not buying it. You could have just as easily said "Obama is that you?" (although Obama isn't really a socialist either). It would be prudent to refrain from comparing people to mass murderers in your "sarcastic remarks".


Does this mean we're not going to be friends anymore?

You know, Grasshopper, if I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it.
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01-08-2017, 03:46 PM (This post was last modified: 01-08-2017 03:59 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
Looks the hippie dippies in Oregon are willing to play guinea pig for the rest of us and see if adding taxes on hospitals and insurance companies to pay for OHP will result in a mass exodus of providers and incredible wait times. I don't see why it would. They'll just pass the tax through to the consumers who are too fucking stoned to notice a 1.5% difference. Hell, it'll probably work out to the hospitals' and insurance companies' advantage because they'll use it as an excuse to raise prices higher than 1.5% to whatever they think the stoners can tolerate. I'm guessing they could get away with 2.9%, 3% probably wouldn't work because the stoners would start to notice. Yet another reason for States to legalize recreational weed.

Oregon House passes new taxes on health care providers

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01-08-2017, 04:03 PM
RE: Tomi Lahren Admits She Benefits From Obamacare, Still Wants To Nix It
(01-08-2017 03:45 PM)Hitcher70 Wrote:  
(01-08-2017 03:35 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Not buying it. You could have just as easily said "Obama is that you?" (although Obama isn't really a socialist either). It would be prudent to refrain from comparing people to mass murderers in your "sarcastic remarks".


Does this mean we're not going to be friends anymore?

You know, Grasshopper, if I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it.

Try not to drown in your tears.

Laugh out load

However, you must not have any real arguments against socialism if you have to resort to comparing socialists to Stalin. It kind of "Godwins" the thread, you know?
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