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05-01-2012, 05:11 PM
Top 10 Rick Santorum Comments
Quote:1) ANNUL ALL SAME-SEX MARRIAGES: Arguing that gay relationships “destabilize” society, Santorum wouldn’t offer any legal protections to gay relationships and has pledged to annul all same-sex marriages if elected president. During his 99-country tour of Iowa, Santorum frequently compared same-sex relationships to inanimate objects like trees, basketballs, beer, and paper towels and even tried to blame the economic crisis on gay people. As Santorum explained back in August, religious people have a constitutional right to discriminate against gays: “We have a right the Constitution of religious liberty but now the courts have created a super-right that’s above a right that’s actually in the Constitution, and that’s of sexual liberty. And I think that’s a wrong, that’s a destructive element.”

2) ‘I’M FOR INCOME INEQUALITY’: “They talk about income inequality. I’m for income inequality,” Santorum said during an event in Pella, Iowa in December. “I think some people should make more than other people, because some people work harder and have better ideas and take more risk, and they should be rewarded for it. I have no problem with income inequality.”

3) CONTRACEPTION IS ‘A LICENSE TO DO THINGS’: Santorum has pledged to repeal all federal funding for contraception and allow the states to outlaw birth control, insisting that “it’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

4) GAY SOLDIERS ‘CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN CLOSE QUARTERS’: During an appearance on Fox News Sunday in October, Santorum defended his support for Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell by arguing that gay soldiers would disrupt the military because “they’re in close quarters, they live with people, they obviously shower with people.” He also suggested that “there are people who were gay and lived the gay lifestyle and aren’t anymore.”

5) OBAMA SHOULD OPPOSE ABORTION BECAUSE HE’S BLACK: During an appearance on Christian television in January, Santorum said he was surprised that President Obama didn’t know when life began — given his skin color. “I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say ‘now we are going to decide who are people and who are not people,” he explained.

6) WE DON’T NEED FOOD STAMPS BECAUSE OBESITY RATES ARE SO HIGH: Speaking in Le Mars, Iowa in December, Santorum promised to significantly reduce federal funding for food stamps, arguing that the nation’s increasing obesity rates render the program unnecessary.

7) ABORTION EXCEPTIONS TO PROTECT WOMEN’S HEALTH ARE ‘PHONY’: While discussing his track record as a champion of the partial birth abortion ban in June, Santorum dismissed exceptions other senators wanted to carve out to protect the life and health of mothers, calling such exceptions “phony.” “They wanted a health exception, which of course is a phony exception which would make the ban ineffective,” he said.

8) HEALTH REFORM WILL KILL MY CHILD: Santorum, who claims that Obamacare motivated him to run for president, told reporters in April that his daughter Bella — who was born with a genetic abnormality — wouldn’t survive in a country with “socialized medicine.” “Children like Bella are not given the treatment that other children are given.”

9) UNINSURED AMERICANS SHOULD SPEND LESS ON CELL-PHONE BILLS: During a meeting with the editorial board of the Des Moines Register in August, Santorum said that people who can’t afford health care should stop whining about the high costs of medical treatments and medications and spend less on non essentials. Answering a question about the uninsured, Santorum explained that health care, like a car, is a luxury resource that is rationed by society and recalled the story of a woman who said she was spending $200 a month on life-saving prescriptions. Santorum told her to stop complaining and instead lower her cable and cell phone bills.

10) INSURERS SHOULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS: Santorum sounded like a representative from the health insurance industry when he addressed a small group of high school students in Merrimack, New Hampshire in December. The former Pennsylvania senator not only defended insurers for denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, he also argued that individuals who are sick should pay higher premiums because they cost more money to insure.




#2 actually doesn't bother me at all.

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05-01-2012, 06:56 PM
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To think someone like this has the potential to be one of the most powerful men in the world is frightening. Thankfully he is upfront with his beliefs which I am confident will be his undoing.

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06-01-2012, 01:54 AM
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(05-01-2012 06:56 PM)free2011 Wrote:  To think someone like this has the potential to be one of the most powerful men in the world is frightening. Thankfully he is upfront with his beliefs which I am confident will be his undoing.

Yeah, the caucuses were a bit freaky for me.
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06-01-2012, 02:10 AM
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(05-01-2012 05:11 PM)germanyt Wrote:  #2 actually doesn't bother me at all.

What about when this is applied to race or gender? Because that's often the case. Minorities and women can and often do make less with same qualifications- sometimes even greater qualifications Sad
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06-01-2012, 03:48 AM
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For once I thank Zeus! [Insert any other imaginary deities HERE] I live in the UK!

My heart goes out to all the Atheists et al. across America...Jefferson I'm sure would be turning in his grave!?
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06-01-2012, 07:30 AM (This post was last modified: 07-01-2012 03:38 AM by Thammuz.)
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Well done, I like to be informed about those jokers. It's actually quite scary to see such fanatic idiots being promoted as candidates for one of the most influential jobs in the world. I'm a bit bored so I'll reply to some of these dumb quotes.


1) ANNUL ALL SAME-SEX MARRIAGES
Yes, that'll solve the economic crisis. Two men or women loving each other suddenly being stripped of economic protection and the right to defend themselves from religious nuts. Maybe we should sell their stuff too and hand it over to those poor misunderstood Wall Street bankers.

2) ‘I’M FOR INCOME INEQUALITY’
Sure. If you work hard, some extra compensation is in place. But explain me why a sewage disposal worker working in shitty conditions is entitled to a mere $100-200 bonus for his hard work, while a greedy banker will get $100.000.000 for his irresponsible behaviour in his cozy office, while getting a blowjob from his secretary. Those who make extra efforts need to be motivated, but nobody has to be a millionaire in order to do a proper job!

3) CONTRACEPTION IS ‘A LICENSE TO DO THINGS'
Yes, we need more people on this world. Overpopulation is not an issue and the Rapture is near.

4) GAY SOLDIERS ‘CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN CLOSE QUARTERS’:
In my 10 years of service, I've showered numerous times with all different kinds of people. Fatsos, ugly mofo's, hung like a horse black men, psoriasis sufferers and gay people being some of them.

Frigates tend to move alot, soap tends to fall. My soap fell alot, even when showering with gay people. Not even once did I see anyone get an erection. Not even once did my ass feel some sausage-like object trying to penetrate. Gays are not an issue. If you're afraid to shower with a gay person, you're insecure about your own sexuality.


5) OBAMA SHOULD OPPOSE ABORTION BECAUSE HE’S BLACK
That's just... WTF?
And Obama isn't black black. He somewhat of a mixed bunch. Why can't people see those differences? It's not as if he's a former slave that wasn't considered human before. Times have long changed since then. Well, apparently not for the Red states.

Why are republicans seeing this:
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Instead of this?
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6) WE DON’T NEED FOOD STAMPS BECAUSE OBESITY RATES ARE SO HIGH
Poor people tend to eat less vegetables and more fat. McDonalds is often cheaper than a homemade healthy lunch. Basic sociology and economy. I tought this guy had an MBA? Did he buy that from a degree mill or what?


7) ABORTION EXCEPTIONS TO PROTECT WOMEN’S HEALTH ARE ‘PHONY’
... I don't even know what to say to this. I hope you wife dies the next time she gets pregnant. No exceptions! And don't you dare use contraception, you'll burn in hell for that!

8) HEALTH REFORM WILL KILL MY CHILD
I wonder where he gets his proof from this. Socialized healthcare is not equal to returning to bloodletting. Besides, God wanted your child to be sick. If she dies, it's God's will. You should rejoice in that, Rick. Wink

One thing is certain: an extremely expensive healthcare will kill thousands of children from poor families.

9) UNINSURED AMERICANS SHOULD SPEND LESS ON CELL-PHONE BILLS
A populist quote; stupid stupid, stupid. Yes, there might be people who could afford insurance if they started eating canned beans past the sell by date found in the supermarket garbage dumpster. It might even be easier if they stopped bathing and started wearing a cardboard box instead of clothes.

Budget control and responsible behaviour is closely linked to education. Start to invest in that, so that people can have a real future. Only then you should start with those remarks originating from a rich kid's POV.

10) INSURERS SHOULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS
I hope your daughter can't get insurance then. I hope she dies while doctors ignore her plea for mercy, just because she doesn't have an insurance card. Don't worry Rick, she'll be playing poker with JC and God tonight. No need to cry.



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06-01-2012, 08:06 AM (This post was last modified: 06-01-2012 08:28 AM by germanyt.)
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(06-01-2012 02:10 AM)LadyJane Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 05:11 PM)germanyt Wrote:  #2 actually doesn't bother me at all.

What about when this is applied to race or gender? Because that's often the case. Minorities and women can and often do make less with same qualifications- sometimes even greater qualifications Sad

I believe it's the responsibility of everyone to negotiate and defend their worth. If you accept the salary that an employer offers withouth negotiating it you really have no one to blame but yourself for taking the job. But that isn't what he is talking about. He's talkign about income difference between upper and lower class. The large gap that exists between the top 20 and bottom 20 percents. Income inequality can often be viewed as bad but you can't limit how much money a person makes and it's not fair to tax someone who is extremely successful to the point that their income is capped.
Another gem from 6 months ago.

Quote:COMMENTARY | Rick Santorum is always good for a laugh or ten. The fact that he's a former senator who lost his last time out and wants to be seriously considered as a viable GOP candidate may be the biggest laugh-fest he's given America yet, but the joke is mainly on himself (even though it probably wasn't meant to be self-deprecating).


Still, he seems to try and best his most ridiculous acts and statements every time he gets a chance, and this time he has, along with that other Republican merry prankster Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., a person who actually won her last political contest, signed a "Marriage Vow," a document that not only calls for defining marriage with a Constitutional amendment denying same-sex marriages but also calls for a ban on all pornography.

Good luck with the latter.

"When I first read it, I was taken aback by it," Santorum told Candy Crowley on CNN's "State of the Union."

"But I understand why they're saying it," he continued, "because it does undermine people's respect for the institution, respect for the people governing this country. If you can't be faithful to the people that you're closest to, then how can we count on you to be faithful to those of us who you represent?"

The Family Leader, a conservative Christian organization based in Iowa, wants all the GOP candidates to sign their pledge, entitled "The Marriage Vow -- A Declaration of Dependence Upon Marriage and Family." The vow asks candidates to affirm a pro-marriage stance, oppose same-sex unions, defines homosexuality as a "choice" (stating there is no empirical scientific proof that being gay is genetic), and notes that marriage is undermined by adulterous factors like quickie divorces and pornography.

"If you are looking at being at a leader of our great country, we would like to have you pledge personal fidelity to your own spouse and a respect for the marital bonds of others," Vander Plaats told the Des Moines Register.

If one might be thinking that the pledge might be a stab at the Democrats, what with the Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., scandal just completed and the always within reach call-back to the President Bill Clinton-Monica Lewinsky White House scandal, it must be pointed out that the pledge could be a protectionist measure as well. In the past few years, several Republicans, such as Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., who was considered a future presidential contender, and Rep. Chris Lee, R-N.Y., both resigned over fidelity issues.

Of course Weiner, Ensign, and Lee all now have about as much chance of becoming president as does Santorum, but at least he doesn't mind signing pledges that sound divisive and accomplish nothing. Or maybe something.

Remember, this is the guy who once said: "I have no problem with homosexuality. I have a problem with homosexual acts." He made the comment just before acknowledging that he disagreed with the Supreme Court ruling that individuals have a right to privacy and that such matters should be democratically controlled.

Funny thing: Iowa already is a same-sex marriage state, allowing homosexual unions. But, as many who paid attention in civics and history classes know, a Constitutional amendment would trump a state's law, either enhancing or nullifying it. Since defining marriage as a purely heterosexual union is the aim of the pledge, enhancement is a moot point. However, keeping the amendment away from abridging other freedoms protected in the Constitution might be a problem.

And pornography? A federal law or amendment banning pornography could become a problem in an industry that is disseminated in hard copy formats and on the Internet (not to mention via phones). But these guys, Bachmann and Santorum, are free-market Republicans, correct? A ban on porn would facilitate the emergence of an illegal underground industry (considering the 40 million Americans access porn sites regularly). It is already a multi-billion-dollar per year industry (and that's just on the Internet). Perhaps a return to the days of Prohibition (just substitute sex for alcohol) might be necessary for the government to begin regulating the adult industries (which are already regulated -- but aren't Republicans against most governmental regulating of businesses?). Besides, banning pornography for these guys would be simple. Unlike many who use pornography as a sexual stimulant and relationship enhancer, Bachmann and Santorum obviously do not need such in their lives, having eleven children between them in their respective marriages.

At least taking a second vow of marital fidelity might not have been a waste of time (if one assumes, just for laughs, that either of these two will ever become president). Besides, fidelity has always been the measure of a great leader. One great example is the Bible's own King Solomon, who is reported to have had hundreds of wives and concubines, to all of whom he was probably faithful (maybe, most likely... it was a long time ago, so who really knows?). But the "Marriage Vow" equates bigamy and polygamy to homosexuality, which Santorum and Bachmann would like to restrict -- or so they've pledged. Maybe the ruler considered to be among the wisest of all time was not a great example. Perhaps a better example would have been King David...

Funny how there seems to be a lot of reconciling that has to be done with regard to that pledge.

Good economic plan. Let's shut down a multi-billion dollar industry and put a few hundred thousand people out of work.

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06-01-2012, 08:35 AM
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I love every bit of your post!!
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09-01-2012, 09:07 PM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2012 09:10 PM by Starcrash.)
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(06-01-2012 08:06 AM)germanyt Wrote:  I believe it's the responsibility of everyone to negotiate and defend their worth. If you accept the salary that an employer offers withouth negotiating it you really have no one to blame but yourself for taking the job. But that isn't what he is talking about. He's talkign about income difference between upper and lower class. The large gap that exists between the top 20 and bottom 20 percents. Income inequality can often be viewed as bad but you can't limit how much money a person makes and it's not fair to tax someone who is extremely successful to the point that their income is capped.

When you start to suggest fixes for the problem of "income inequality" - like limiting a person's wages, or a "maximum wage" - then you run into problems. So I agree with you on that point. But despite the fact that no one has a good solution to this problem, I wouldn't dare to suggest that it isn't a problem.

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer because the best-paying positions go to those who can network with other wealthy people or can afford expensive schools. There's a predominantly poor population among the blacks because their community started out as freed slaves, with no money and no homes. It's such a problem that, for the majority, this hasn't fixed itself in the 150 years since it happened (despite the black slaves starting with the advantage of a strong work ethic). With a gulf between the rich and the poor, it's extremely hard to become rich from poverty (and strangely, it's hard to become poor when you were born rich). I'm not saying it can't happen, but I am saying that the American dream is not available to everyone. Closing the income gap would allow hard workers to actually become wealthy and slackers to become poor, the way most of us believe it should.

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16-03-2012, 09:10 AM
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I agree, to a point. There are some things that we can do, such as fostering education and employment assistance, as well as laws to prevent discrimination and cronyism. Limiting wages is a no-go, but the tax system could be overhauled to eliminate loopholes and make corporations pay actual taxes. The only issue is that they'd just pass it on to customers, except where they have strong competition (esp. from international corps). Taxing all income (capital gains, etc) at the same (fair, <40%) rate would also help bring money in to support such programs. Fixing the tax system so that it isn't confusing or favor the rich would be good.

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