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10-03-2017, 03:23 PM
RE: Trans women not 'real women'
(10-03-2017 03:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  I don't understand what it means.

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10-03-2017, 03:23 PM
RE: Trans women not 'real women'
(10-03-2017 03:19 PM)Emma Wrote:  Awww, I don't think Alla is a fuckwit. I disagree with her deeply on a lot of things- especially this issue- but I think she's been kind to me and I don't want to trash that.

thank you Heart Emma Heart. And I don't want to trash anybody.
I am trying to understand something I don't understand yet.
I think it is good to have honest conversation and ask sincere questions.

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10-03-2017, 03:24 PM
RE: Trans women not 'real women'
(10-03-2017 03:23 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 03:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  I don't understand what it means.

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not all people as smart as you are.

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10-03-2017, 03:26 PM
RE: Trans women not 'real women'
(10-03-2017 03:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  not all people as smart as you are.

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10-03-2017, 03:28 PM
RE: Trans women not 'real women'
(10-03-2017 03:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  
jennybee Wrote:Remove a womb--still a woman. A woman can't have children or can no longer have children due to advancing age--still a woman. If we take these physical attributes away, the woman is still a woman.
Yes, I agree.
jennybee Wrote:This should illustrate to you that womanhood is more than just sex organs, it is a natural state of mind--how you identify yourself.
I don't understand you. Explain, please. I am talking about natural state of mind.

jennybee Wrote:Womanhood is a state of being.
I don't understand what it means. Please, explain.

Rocketsurgeon actually explained it really well in his posts in this thread. I think he explains it better than I could, I would recommend reading his posts in here. Thumbsup
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10-03-2017, 03:37 PM
RE: Trans women not 'real women'
(10-03-2017 03:28 PM)jennybee Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 03:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  Yes, I agree.
I don't understand you. Explain, please. I am talking about natural state of mind.

I don't understand what it means. Please, explain.

Rocketsurgeon actually explained it really well in his posts in this thread. I think he explains it better than I could, I would recommend reading his posts in here. Thumbsup
thanks, I will read it. Smile

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10-03-2017, 03:53 PM
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(10-03-2017 02:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  
Mathtilda Wrote:So someone with a hysterectomy is no longer a woman?
Hmm.
Someone who has a womb is a woman.
Someone who has problems with a womb is a woman,
Someone who has removed womb is a woman.
Someone who can give birth to children is a woman.
Someone who can't give birth to children because of some health issues is a woman.

I think I covered everything.

What about women born without a womb?

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10-03-2017, 03:59 PM
RE: Trans women not 'real women'
(10-03-2017 03:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  
jennybee Wrote:Remove a womb--still a woman. A woman can't have children or can no longer have children due to advancing age--still a woman. If we take these physical attributes away, the woman is still a woman.
Yes, I agree.

Why? If a woman is only a woman because she has a womb, then why is she still a woman if you remove that womb?

Why is she still a woman and not a human without a womb?

What actually makes you 'you' ?

If removed your womb, would you still be you?

Yes.

If I removed your brain, would you still be you?

No.

Who we are is determined by our brains. Gender is a big part of who we are.
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10-03-2017, 04:05 PM
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jennybee Wrote:... womanhood is more than just sex organs, it is a natural state of mind--how you identify yourself.

Since I was a child I knew that I was a girl. It was not because of some kind of state of mind. I looked like a girl, I sounded like a girl, I had female first name. Strangers would call me "a girl". I liked to play with dolls, but I liked to do and I did things boys like to do.

What I want to understand is this: when someone is born with male body parts and something went wrong in the body (RS76 explained) what does it mean "to have woman state of mind"? to feel like a woman?

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10-03-2017, 04:05 PM
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(10-03-2017 02:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  
Mathtilda Wrote:So someone with a hysterectomy is no longer a woman?
Hmm.
Someone who has a womb is a woman.
Someone who has problems with a womb is a woman,
Someone who has removed womb is a woman.
Someone who can give birth to children is a woman.
Someone who can't give birth to children because of some health issues is a woman.

I think I covered everything.

I would personally say that being a transgender woman certainly is a health issue that prevents me from giving birth to children. There is no cure to fix that (yet) but, there is a cure to the testosterone poisoning that I've endured for most of my life. Wink
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