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24-04-2016, 07:34 AM
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
(24-04-2016 07:25 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(24-04-2016 07:20 AM)Anjele Wrote:  I have to ask...seriously...how often does this happen?

As I said in earlier posts...the perverts, stalkers, rapists, etc. are going to find a way to do what they want to do. A sign on a door isn't going to stop them.

It's happening.

http://www.ksdk.com/mb/news/nation-now/s...m/45548487

It's always been happening...people just didn't have their super-sensitivity detectors turned up to 11.

The criminals are going to use whatever they can to perform criminal acts...that's not new. The truly trans people just want to use the damn bathroom and not be noticed...just like the rest of us do.

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24-04-2016, 07:35 AM
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
as long as theres a hole in the ground for me to shit in and a basic divider for privacy i dont give a fuck who else is in the room.
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24-04-2016, 07:36 AM (This post was last modified: 24-04-2016 07:39 AM by yakherder.)
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
I don't personally have any chips in this debate, but feel the need to play devil's advocate for a moment just to point out what I'm presently perceiving as a bit of hypocrisy...

So to clarify, let me get this straight. A biological woman who identifies as a woman is uncomfortable with the idea of a biological man who identifies as a woman using the same bathroom is just being intolerant and should get over it. Okay, fine. But following that rationality, if a biological man who identifies as a woman is uncomfortable using a bathroom with biological men, why is the same solution not for them to just get over it? Are they worried about being gazed at or experiencing sexual assault or any of the other things that the other side of the debate is being criticized for using in their argument? The way I see it, if we're going to be consistent, then either both sides have a valid point and a compromise is needed that doesn't irrationally label one side as intolerant and the other side as being in need of special protection when both essentially have the same perceived problem, or both sides are full of shit and have a common need to just get over it.

That said, I'm going with the idea that unisex restrooms designed as such are the ideal solution to this ridiculous problem that shouldn't actually be a problem.

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24-04-2016, 07:39 AM
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
(24-04-2016 07:34 AM)Anjele Wrote:  
(24-04-2016 07:25 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  It's happening.

http://www.ksdk.com/mb/news/nation-now/s...m/45548487

It's always been happening...people just didn't have their super-sensitivity detectors turned up to 11.

The criminals are going to use whatever they can to perform criminal acts...that's not new. The truly trans people just want to use the damn bathroom and not be noticed...just like the rest of us do.

The question becomes, do we let .2% of the population cause 50% to be uncomfortable?

700,000 trans people get to feel free and safe using the restroom of their choice, while 150,000,000 now feel unsafe and uncomfortable.

Makes no sense.

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24-04-2016, 07:40 AM
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
(24-04-2016 07:36 AM)yakherder Wrote:  I don't personally have any chips in this debate, but feel the need to play devil's advocate for moment just to point out what I'm presently perceiving as a bit of hypocrisy...

So to clarify, let me get this straight. A biological woman who identifies as a woman is uncomfortable with the idea of a biological man who identifies as a woman using the same bathroom is just being intolerant and should get over it. Okay, fine. But following that rationality, if a biological man who identifies as a woman is uncomfortable using a bathroom with biological men, why is the same solution not for them to just get over it? Are they worried about being gazed at or experiencing sexual assault or any of the other things that the other side of the debate is being criticized for using in their argument? The way I see it, if we're going to be consistent, then either both sides have a valid point and a compromise is needed that doesn't irrationally label one side as intolerant and the other side as being in need of special protection when both essentially have the same perceived problem, or both sides are full of shit and have a common need to just get over it.

That said, I'm going with the idea that unisex restrooms designed as such are the ideal solution to this ridiculous problem that shouldn't actually be a problem.

I said early on that there are many reasons why unisex bathrooms are the way to go (no pun intended).

A parent helping a different sex child. A caregiver helping a different sex loved one. This isn't rocket surgery.

Unisex bathrooms make sense...that's why there's a debate. Reason and logic can never seem to be enough to get things done.

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24-04-2016, 07:42 AM
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
(24-04-2016 07:39 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(24-04-2016 07:34 AM)Anjele Wrote:  It's always been happening...people just didn't have their super-sensitivity detectors turned up to 11.

The criminals are going to use whatever they can to perform criminal acts...that's not new. The truly trans people just want to use the damn bathroom and not be noticed...just like the rest of us do.

The question becomes, do we let .2% of the population cause 50% to be uncomfortable?

700,000 trans people get to feel free and safe using the restroom of their choice, while 150,000,000 now feel unsafe and uncomfortable.

Makes no sense.


The 50% are fools. Why care about fools?

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24-04-2016, 07:46 AM
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
(24-04-2016 07:42 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(24-04-2016 07:39 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  The question becomes, do we let .2% of the population cause 50% to be uncomfortable?

700,000 trans people get to feel free and safe using the restroom of their choice, while 150,000,000 now feel unsafe and uncomfortable.

Makes no sense.


The 50% are fools. Why care about fools?

The vast majority of people who exist and have ever existed are driven by ideals that could easily be argued as foolish. The simple answer has more to do with strategical management of the masses in order to avoid social collapse. People are fucking ridiculous Tongue That's why we need things like government, and laws, and the concept of tolerance (the cultural standard of putting up with peoples' irrational bullshit for the sake of getting along) in the first place.

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24-04-2016, 07:55 AM
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
(24-04-2016 07:39 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(24-04-2016 07:34 AM)Anjele Wrote:  It's always been happening...people just didn't have their super-sensitivity detectors turned up to 11.

The criminals are going to use whatever they can to perform criminal acts...that's not new. The truly trans people just want to use the damn bathroom and not be noticed...just like the rest of us do.

The question becomes, do we let .2% of the population cause 50% to be uncomfortable?

700,000 trans people get to feel free and safe using the restroom of their choice, while 150,000,000 now feel unsafe and uncomfortable.

Makes no sense.

The question becomes, do we let .2% of the population turn us into paranoid nutjobs.

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24-04-2016, 07:55 AM
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Nothing is gonna change.
"In the closet" politicians need somewhere to go "foot tapping".
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24-04-2016, 07:55 AM
RE: Transgender Bathrooms?
(24-04-2016 07:36 AM)yakherder Wrote:  I don't personally have any chips in this debate, but feel the need to play devil's advocate for a moment just to point out what I'm presently perceiving as a bit of hypocrisy...

So to clarify, let me get this straight. A biological woman who identifies as a woman is uncomfortable with the idea of a biological man who identifies as a woman using the same bathroom is just being intolerant and should get over it. Okay, fine. But following that rationality, if a biological man who identifies as a woman is uncomfortable using a bathroom with biological men, why is the same solution not for them to just get over it? Are they worried about being gazed at or experiencing sexual assault or any of the other things that the other side of the debate is being criticized for using in their argument? The way I see it, if we're going to be consistent, then either both sides have a valid point and a compromise is needed that doesn't irrationally label one side as intolerant and the other side as being in need of special protection when both essentially have the same perceived problem, or both sides are full of shit and have a common need to just get over it.

That said, I'm going with the idea that unisex restrooms designed as such are the ideal solution to this ridiculous problem that shouldn't actually be a problem.
Since when has transgender people sexually assaulting men women and children in bathrooms ever been an issue? It's nothing but a bunch of people who are scared of the idea of a man being a woman creating bigoted laws. Nothing more.
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