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27-07-2012, 12:03 AM
RE: Trekkie Thread.
Erx, you know it's bad to go against me, right?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trek

Trekkie is ONLY used as a Star Trek fan. Trekker CAN be used for a Star Trek fan, but it can be used for mountaineering and walking people as well.

That means that "trekkie" is more precise and more specialised word for a Star Trek fan, because "trekker" has other meanings. Also, when you pronounce trekker, it sounds just like tracker, so can sound like you are tracking someone. When you say "trekkie" there is no mix-up, you know exactly what are you referring to.

Do you give up, or must I continue to be an asshole?

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31-07-2012, 05:38 AM
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kaplah!

I hope, you know that you can set the language settings for google to Klingon.

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31-07-2012, 07:27 AM
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As a kid, I was never all that much of a fan of Star Trek. Given the choice, I'd much sooner watch Space 1999. Star Trek was just too much of aliens-with-zippers-down-their-back and the "Trek" part seemed more about finding the next alien love-interest for Kirk. And, as a Scot, I wasn't too impressed with the accent of a certain engineer.

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I made an effort to get into Next Generation, but didn't make it past the first series. The main reason was the holo deck. You have a space craft. You have the entire universe to explore, seeking new and familiar species to interact with and have adventures with... but no. Screw all that. We'll spend nearly every episode in some lengthy virtual reality story.

Why...

...the fuck!?

They may as well have done that on Earth, nowhere near a space ship. Star Trek? Pah! Holo Deck Trek. And that whole concept pissed me off too much to care about whatever else happened in later series.

The only other Star Trek series I've watched is Enterprise. I got as far as the first series, but stopped when I went offline (from the internet and TV in general) for over 3 years. Just recently, I've downloaded everything I missed and am working my way through it. It isn't as popular as other Star Trek series, but I quite like the concept of the Enterprise as the pioneering steps for humanity's first proper incursions into space.

My biggest gripe with all of it, though, is the following: nearly every alien species that they encounter took an almost identical path through the evolutionary process. Which really irritates the bejesus out of me. From the neck down, all warp-drive-capable species are the same. Neck up, some have bumps and furrows on the face, but the eyes, mouth and nose are pretty much identical to humans.

I know why it is done like that (for budgetary means, avoiding CGI) but they could at least try to introduce bigger variations in what aliens look like.

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01-08-2012, 12:11 AM
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(26-07-2012 12:53 AM)LadyJane Wrote:  Also, I think I may attend the Spock Days convention next spring, it's the 20th annual.

Boldly go!

So, I gathered a small fleet to attend with me next year.

I was going to go as romulan, thinking they are an off shoot species of Vulcan, not realizing they are also enemies.

My friend says I will get picked on and harassed at a straight up Vulcan convention. I was rethinking my choice but thinking I might go for it anyway.



Any thoughts?
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01-08-2012, 12:28 AM
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(01-08-2012 12:11 AM)LadyJane Wrote:  
(26-07-2012 12:53 AM)LadyJane Wrote:  Also, I think I may attend the Spock Days convention next spring, it's the 20th annual.

Boldly go!

So, I gathered a small fleet to attend with me next year.

I was going to go as romulan, thinking they are an off shoot species of Vulcan, not realizing they are also enemies.

My friend says I will get picked on and harassed at a straight up Vulcan convention. I was rethinking my choice but thinking I might go for it anyway.



Any thoughts?

If you've got broad shoulders (not literally Smile) I'd say go for it. You can defend yourself. It may stir up shit but who cares...Wink

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01-08-2012, 12:48 AM
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If you are going as a Romulan, be sure to be a member of Tal Shiar. That way no one will dare to make fun of you. I play Star Trek Online and out fleet is called Tal Shiar. We are Romulan spies in Federation.

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Red, if you just ignore the looks of aliens, the ST is a great great relaxation show. Yes, the "aliens" look stupidly similar to humans, but you just ignore that part. There are so many different things, so why be a hair splitter?

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01-08-2012, 02:40 AM
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(01-08-2012 12:48 AM)Filox Wrote:  Red, if you just ignore the looks of aliens, the ST is a great great relaxation show. Yes, the "aliens" look stupidly similar to humans, but you just ignore that part. There are so many different things, so why be a hair splitter?

Have you ever seen Dr Who? It has a much smaller budget than ST, but just look at some of the aliens in that. Shy It's the lack of imagination in ST that kills the buzz for me, that's all.
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01-08-2012, 03:03 AM
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I don't think it's the lack of imagination, but sticking to the original story. Star Trek started in 1966 with a small budget and even smaller capabilities for high quality masks and new aliens. Later, when they had more money and better equipment, they could not just start over and use all sorts of new aliens, they had to stick to the original, so they had to continue in the same fashion.

You see, they had to adopt the story when they wanted to change the appearance of some aliens, like Klingons.

These were the original Klingons:

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then they suffered some genetic mutation, due to some illness and now Klingons look like this:

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To avoid this sort of thing from becoming normal and to avoid giving genetic mutations to all alien races, they just left the Universe as it is. Considering the endless possibilities of our Universe, alien races could be exactly the same as ST has described, or it could be completely different. The statistical chance is exactly the same for any alien look. So why not? I can swallow the Star Trek alien look, even if only one line makes a difference from humans and some distant aliens.

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01-08-2012, 03:17 AM
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(01-08-2012 03:03 AM)Filox Wrote:  I don't think it's the lack of imagination, but sticking to the original story. Star Trek started in 1966 with a small budget and even smaller capabilities for high quality masks and new aliens. Later, when they had more money and better equipment, they could not just start over and use all sorts of new aliens, they had to stick to the original, so they had to continue in the same fashion.

Oh yes, I can see the need for continuity for species that existed in the original ST. But that isn't the case for all aliens, is it? Some are "brand new" to the newer episodes.

Here's an example. The last episode of Enterprise that I watched featured an away team that blended into a pre-warp civilisation by sticking a bit of rubber on their forehead. This is a species that had never appeared in any other ST (AFAIK), so why not make them more alien than a bit of rubber would allow for?

I know enough about evolution to find it very preposterous... but, meh. It's entertainment, not science, but even so... science fiction should contain a bit more science.

On a different note, I'm intrigued to know why the away team in Enterprise so often consists of their most senior officers. Archer nearly always goes, as does T'Pol or Tucker. If something went badly wrong (not that it ever does), the Enterprise would be screwed. And Tucker gets imprisoned and beaten up an awful lot.

Perhaps he's a masochist. Smile
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01-08-2012, 03:41 AM
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Even new species must follow the way Universe was designed in ST. That is why they stick to it, since they have already did that for decades, why stop now.

As for science in ST, there is a whole bunch of interesting scientific ideas, they just don't include the looks of alien species and the fact that senior officers try to get themselves killed in every episode.

I personally don't like that fact, about officers. But since a lot of the shows in not in space, but on the ground, they had to use the main actors for the major scenes. Imagine that in every episode some other away team was going on the planets, then how would we get to know Captain Picard, if he would always stay on his ship? We would have to follow the crew and the main characters would stop being that, or the concept of the show would have to be changed.

Also, the senior officers are the most trained and the most skilled ones, so that is the explanation for "why do they always go down there". Anyone else who is not a senior member usually dies. Typical ST thing.

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