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18-05-2015, 11:21 AM
RE: Trending now: the religious "nones"
(18-05-2015 05:50 AM)Dom Wrote:  I think there are many more closeted folks than we think. I never meet open atheists my age in real life, but when I steer the conversation to that topic, many will profess not to believe in religion. The word atheist is still scary.

This is very true. Also, note that these surveys show how people self identify. So, you'll frequently get a much higher number of people who identify as agnostic instead of atheist, despite the fact that they're probably the exact same thing for purposes of the survey (people who don't believe in any gods).

More people, still, will just say "none" for their religion, although that still leaves wiggle room for deists or people who believe in a Christian-flavored god that isn't YHWH. I'm not going to go so far as to say that all of the "nones" are also atheist.
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18-05-2015, 02:37 PM
RE: Trending now: the religious "nones"
They certainly broke the unaffiliated down way more than what this article on the same study did recently.

Quote: As the ranks of the religiously unaffiliated continue to grow, they also describe themselves in increasingly secular terms. In 2007, 25% of the “nones” called themselves atheists or agnostics; 39% identified their religion as “nothing in particular” and also said that religion is “not too” or “not at all” important in their lives; and 36% identified their religion as “nothing in particular” while nevertheless saying that religion is either “very important” or “somewhat important” in their lives. The new survey finds that the atheist and agnostic share of the “nones” has grown to 31%. Those identifying as “nothing in particular” and describing religion as unimportant in their lives continue to account for 39% of all “nones.” But the share identifying as “nothing in particular” while also affirming that religion is either “very” or “somewhat” important to them has fallen to 30% of all “nones.”

From what this article seems to suggest is that the "nones" are overwhelmingly complacent or don't follow any religion. The other article in the link seems to have omitted the above breakdown and instead almost makes it look as if the "nones" are simply people migrating to evangelical churches. It almost makes it look like Christianity Today left an important piece of information out......I wonder why they would do that.......Consider

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18-05-2015, 02:43 PM
RE: Trending now: the religious "nones"
What about "DONES"?
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23-05-2015, 06:16 PM
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Here's Psychology Today on the topic.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our...s-dropping

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23-05-2015, 08:36 PM
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I think another promising change to mention, is the rise in women self identifying as atheist. I forget which podcast I was listening to (Rationally Speaking or TTA), but I remember the mention of a rise since 1997, when less than 20% of the movement was female, and now it's a nearly 50/50 split.
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23-05-2015, 09:28 PM
RE: Trending now: the religious "nones"
(18-05-2015 06:49 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  PEW: RELIGIOUS ‘NONES’ TEND TO BE UNDEREDUCATED, POOR, WHITE MALES

Well, yeah, that could be true.

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23-05-2015, 09:47 PM
RE: Trending now: the religious "nones"
(23-05-2015 06:16 PM)Dom Wrote:  Here's Psychology Today on the topic.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our...s-dropping

Interesting article.

It is obvious from this that Psychology Today is part of the conspiracy.

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23-05-2015, 10:33 PM
RE: Trending now: the religious "nones"
(23-05-2015 06:16 PM)Dom Wrote:  Here's Psychology Today on the topic.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our...s-dropping

Interesting. I was a bit surprised though that for a psychology post, they really didn't address one of the other possible reasons why the "nones" are increasing: people are less afraid. I can speak to that part myself (as I am sure many on TTA can as well). A year ago, I was terrified of being honest with my loved ones. Now it's out there and I feel like I am in a much better place for it. Reading, podcasts, speeches, all gave me the courage to be myself and I am very grateful for that.

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23-05-2015, 11:40 PM
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(23-05-2015 10:33 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  
(23-05-2015 06:16 PM)Dom Wrote:  Here's Psychology Today on the topic.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our...s-dropping

Interesting. I was a bit surprised though that for a psychology post, they really didn't address one of the other possible reasons why the "nones" are increasing: people are less afraid. I can speak to that part myself (as I am sure many on TTA can as well). A year ago, I was terrified of being honest with my loved ones. Now it's out there and I feel like I am in a much better place for it. Reading, podcasts, speeches, all gave me the courage to be myself and I am very grateful for that.

Looking forward to the day I don't have to pretend anymore, but as of yet still too chickenshit to make the leap. Pray for me. Tongue

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24-05-2015, 06:56 PM
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I'd hope the undereducated element is true, it'd be nice to see it spreading to more reaches and still hitting that category of those non-college grads still. Showing more separation from certainty in belief without as well developed educational backgrounds. The white male thing is a still undesired element but it seems to still be a majority or high frequency of the range..

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